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@OP - I've lived with 944s in winter for years and we have a steep driveway. Unless you can keep the snow and ice off it, forget it. Your 944 may do well in winter on most roads, but I found trying to get up our driveway in winter conditions a challenge. But (coming from a guy who lives on the Canadian prairies) it really all comes down to your tires. Get the best winter tires you can possibly afford. They make all the difference in the world. Don't use 'all-seasons' - they aren't.

That said, for the past couple of winters I've been driving a 2008 Lincoln MKZ with AWD. Beats the 944 hands down for winter handling.
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Hey! Maybe I know you!

That little contest was held just south of Provost, bring out the Lincoln and we will have at it!! The Mercedes and Subaru AWDs couldn't catch the 944, maybe you can!
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Marv? Yes! I do recognize that 944. Bro, if I got caught ice-racing that MKZ my nards would end up in a sling. But the little gray 944 is ready to be put back on the road - and the kid has his learner's permit - so you may see another 944 out there. Someday...
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Perfect! It was all about the fresh drivers last Saturday. There were 2 from our house, 4 from the host property, and 2 from Wainwright. It was all about giving these young folks a chance to throw a few cars around on the ice and get a feel for it.
You are safe with the MKZ, it is one car at a time against the clock. Here are the trophy winners, a lowest time and a most out of control! Those are the participants.


Yes you are right! The adults insisted on a piece of the action too! What a hoot! Your boy would fit right in.

P.S. Aren't you supposed to be working? Just kidding!
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@OP - I've lived with 944s in winter for years and we have a steep driveway. Unless you can keep the snow and ice off it, forget it. Your 944 may do well in winter on most roads, but I found trying to get up our driveway in winter conditions a challenge. But (coming from a guy who lives on the Canadian prairies) it really all comes down to your tires. Get the best winter tires you can possibly afford. They make all the difference in the world. Don't use 'all-seasons' - they aren't.

That said, for the past couple of winters I've been driving a 2008 Lincoln MKZ with AWD. Beats the 944 hands down for winter handling.
I agree I too have a steep driveway, getting up it would be impossible. Getting down it would be easy but really scary! I use "hill decent" in my BMW or my wife's Range Rover to get down - wonderful invention. In my old Land Rover I did a number of accidental 180's going down it!
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I got caught in a snow storm on I-95 (from DC to Baltimore). The roads were fine in DC. By the time I got halfway there, there was 4-5 inches on the road. I had a hard time keeping it straight. Fishtailed like crazy, spun out a couple time (with oncoming trucks), and hit a guardrail. I never drove it in the snow again.
Also, just for reference, I lived in Boston for years and learned to drive in the snow. I had an 81 Trans Am that was also no picnic in the snow, but far better then my 83 944.
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M, love those pics! And I am working, BTW. Mostly... Haven't been on Pelican in a very long time but lately I've been feeling more like my old self so the gears in my head are spinning once again.

gilmore27: I was run off the road one New Year's Eve by some bloke driving a welding truck. Same scenario as you describe: snowstorm, nighttime, limited visibility and very slick. My 944 dealt with the off-road excursion really well, but the best part was that the guy driving the truck in such a rush to get home (and driving like a twit) got a call from the Samaritan who stopped to help me and had to drive back out to where he ran me off to help pull me out. Kismet. I subsequently got much better tires, but I don't really miss winter-driving my 944s.

I do know that at -35C the tranny oil gets so thick you'd swear you were rowing gears in chunky peanut butter, and the heater, while barely able to keep the windows clear, couldn't get me toasty until the car had been running for what seemed like ages.
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The first year I had my '83 we struck out for Armstrong BC on a Saturday night after work(10 hours on good roads). We got into a freak spring snow about 1/2 way and at midnight. I had a pair of Pirelli snow tires on the back and summer skins on the front. The snow was wet and heavy and about 5 to 6" deep. I took the back roads to keep away from all the idiots and it was going super well until I broke through a ridge of snow left by a snow plow merging onto a different highway. About 2 miles later the temp gauge was pinned and she was steaming like a freight train!

Plugged the rad solid! Had I set the car up sideways to blow through that ridge all would have been fine! Once the rad was chiselled free and water added the rest of the trip through the Rodgers Pass went fine. Our Jettas would have been stuck in the middle of the road and our Dodge 3500 4x4 diesel may made it at 1/2 the speed IF I could have kept it out of the ditch. Given a choice of which one to repeat the experience in... well, ok Dad's '69 VW van with winter tires! The 944 comes in real close 2nd!

I don't drive my 944s in the winter on a regular basis for the reasons Slam stated, heating and defrost totally inadequate and stupid drivers, but I do take them for a romp now and again to circulate the fluids!

By the way if you want a standard to shift in the winter, drop the fluid in the fall and fill it with ATF. Shifts like summer time and is way easier on everything! Been doing it on all my cars since about '82. Learned that trick from running Ford Escorts - that's thier factory fill on standards!

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I drove my 87 944 turbo through a CT winter WITH snow tires. They make all the difference. I have snows for all my winter cars now.
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Here is a thought that just occurred to me, those of you that have had bad winter road experiences with your 944 - do you have the original throttle cam or have you up graded to the "sportier" one for quicker throttle response?
Successful winter driving is all about a delicate touch on all controls. Now that I think of it, maybe that is why I have so much trouble on ice with the wife's Forester. It has an extremely hair trigger throttle!

Just an idea...
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