turbo parts

highboost951 · 02-12-2003, 05:17 PM

Hi guys, still have the turbo S brake package available, I guess I have it priced too high @ $600 w/ new carbon kevlar pads, thick resurfaced rotors, and good used calipers. Offers please, need to move them, the same goes for these! Front 951 bumper cover, pass. fender, nose panel, 1000cc/95# delphi injectors, 8 valve turbo head for 3.0lt block, refinished '86 offset phonedials, reg. turbo brake sets, 1 straight 8x16 23.3offset phonedial, dme and klr, etc. I'm moving into my new house and can't take everything!

Regards,
Jared
417-850-1863

Blackfoot · Blackfoot's Garage

hi jared, about the 8v "turbo" head for 3.0l block, is that a 968 turbo s head? i'm contemplating a 3.2l boring of my 968 3.0l block, and subsequent turbocharging. how much are you asking?

i'm holding off on your k26 turbo for now...thanks.

highboost951 · 02-12-2003, 05:51 PM

Thanks for the update. The head is actually a 944 turbo head that's been modified by SFR to fit the 3.0lt block, only 1,500 miles on the rebuild w/new guides, sodium filled valves, and springs. The deck was just resurfaced so it's ready to bolt on. The nice thing w/doing it this way is you can just bolt on the reg. turbo intake, exhaust, etc. and go, plus it costs a lot less than the 8valve 3.0 lt head! Asking price, ummm best reasonable offer?

Blackfoot · Blackfoot's Garage

$400?

highboost951 · 02-13-2003, 06:42 PM

Ha, Ha, that's funny!

1.2gees · 1.2gees's Garage

Highboost, I could've imagined you'd want a lot for that head, but it's an 8v with some machine work. The 8v head isn't too hard to come by, I'm sure SFR charged you a lot of money for the machine work to bolt it up to a 3l block, but it's still the 8v head...
Ahmet

highboost951 · 02-13-2003, 07:35 PM

I agree w/ you it's just an eight valve head modified to fit the 3.0lt block, that's why I'd want a lot less than the n/a 8 valve 3.0lt head('89 n/a 2.5lt) or a 16 valve. I thought it was humerous since there aren't too many regular good used 951 heads that trade hands for less than $400, especially if they've been rebuilt w/ new orig. valves. Not flaming you but have you priced original valves or a stock rebuilt head or weighed the benefits of the different routes to make a 3.0lt turbo? Yes, it's just an 8valve, but it does have value considering it's replacement cost.

Blackfoot · Blackfoot's Garage

wasn't trying to be funny. talked to sfr today; they can modify anyone's 951 head to fit 3.0l for $400. i appreciate you say it has the valve job, but for an extra $850 sfr will not only do a valve job, but also port & polish the head. as i will have a 951 head to give them, i guess i'd have to pass on yours.

951carter · 02-13-2003, 08:17 PM

I have almost $2k in my head......=(

1.2gees · 1.2gees's Garage

Carter, honestly I just did a headjob for randy (elondooberhead here) for less than $300, includes a bit of porting, 5 angle job, flow testing, a couple of new intake valves, all new seals and guides etc. You should get yours done here. This was the 5th 944 head I worked with (

), and none have taken longer than 36 hours to complete. Usually involves removing corrosion/partial filling if necessary (not just 944 heads either), and very rarely does it cost remotely close to $300...
Ahmet

highboost951 · 02-13-2003, 11:32 PM

I know you weren't trying to be funny, but as you know it just wasn't actually a "reasonable" offer for the head sold outright w/only 1.5K miles on a rebuild (magnifluxed, resurfaced, guides, seals, valves, springs, valve job) and being modified to fit the 3lt. block, you know that. Sorry to come across as a pr*ck, but sheez! I even had the deck resurfaced already for the next proud owner, it's ready to bolt on. In all reality I actually had $800 in mind for mine, which would be outright w/o exchange.

Ahmet, your price is reasonable, especially since many are being overcharged for "porting/polishing" and 5-angle jobs(gosh you can't do much w/ the exhaust port on a 951 anyways). If you don't mind me asking what kind of flow #'s were you able to achieve? I know lindsey has been working theirs pretty well, any comparison? Curious, how do you do your 5 angle job? Stone or cutter, single cut/grind or multiple?

1.2gees · 1.2gees's Garage

Highboost, we use multiple cross cut/grind milling machines for the head work (about the best available). I wouldn't consider the job done as much of a "performance" job if you're looking for a ~$200 deal although I would think the performance would be marginally improved, however about everything done includes a bit of porting. If you want to get a bit more serious in porting and some polishing will usually run another $100 or so. I would think twice about that on a 951 because as you said the exaust ports are ceramic lined. Intake has a bit of room for enlargement however. Port matching is available. The flow (bench) testing is done to match all 4 (in the case of a 4 cylinder) again, rather than extra performance.

Just to clarify however the headwork is done @ MEM (mobile automotive machining), whom the shop I used to work at had a contract with. I have strong contacts around here, but I currently do NOT do any of the actual work. I still feel they're amongst the best, they're certainly experienced with everything from high tech motorcycle heads to ferraris, porshes, and can handle next to anything you can throw at them.
Ahmet

zehnd · 02-15-2003, 04:51 PM

How much for the tele dials?

XJOSHX · 02-15-2003, 05:13 PM

Do the 8 valve n/a heads have a ceramic coating on them? When I get my project underway I am going to port and polish them (I think) just have not made up my mind on what to do.

1.2gees · 1.2gees's Garage

No, only the turbo 8v heads do.
Ahmet

XJOSHX · 02-15-2003, 05:25 PM

what was the purpose behing the ceramic coating? Was it to reduce heat or improve exhaust flow or something? I know when I had my 951 a while back the machine shop just ported like there was nothing there. Is this a bad thing to do?

highboost951 · 02-15-2003, 05:38 PM

The effort spent porting the intakes so that they match each other is nice but really doesn't help unless you do the same w/ the intake manifold. It differs from port to port; any experience flow matching the intake runners?

BTW XJOSHX, fyi: the ceramic in the exhaust ports actually isn't a coating, they are ceramic liners that the cylinder head is cast around.

1.2gees · 1.2gees's Garage

XJOSHX, the purpose of ceramic coating was to reduce heat retention by the head around the exaust ports...

Highboost, yes. That's one of the reasons "port matching" costs extra because not only is so much more labor intensive but it also requires the intake manny to be dropped off.
Ahmet

highboost951 · 02-15-2003, 09:23 PM

I'm talking about matching actual flow #'s, not just port matching.

highboost951 · 02-15-2003, 09:28 PM

Oh XJOSHX I didn't see your post(my damn computer doesn't refresh it self right now, hmm), your right about both points, the ceramics increase exhaust velocity and reduce heatsoaking the cylinder head. If they did any port work on the exhaust side, they just ground of the casting flange were it meets up with the ceramic liner, or they milled off the guide seat were it extends into the the exhaust port.