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WTB: Manual Side Mirros, aka 944 turbo cup mirros

I know these requests come up from time to time, but as we get closer to the day my 924 GTS project goes to paint I want to try and find a 944 Turbo Cup Mirror for the drivers side (if someone has a pair I might be interested as well, but really just thinking of running the drivers side like the real GTS cars).

I was going to try Golf II mirrors as they are very similar, but couldn't figure out a solution to mount them because they are at a very different angle.

Anyway, let me know what you have, and how much you would sell the mirror(s) for.

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I was thinking since the 944 cup mirrors are NLA and VW mirrors you speak of are the same, I have some in my race car however the bases are different we should get a plastic 3D pair of bases made and use these to basically still have a solution it prob can’t be more than $100 to get a few sets of bases matched?
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That would be a brilliant solution, and to double potential sales a 2nd base could be made for the 911s (there is some rare 911 that used very similar mirrors).
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I was thinking since the 944 cup mirrors are NLA and VW mirrors you speak of are the same, I have some in my race car however the bases are different we should get a plastic 3D pair of bases made and use these to basically still have a solution it prob canít be more than $100 to get a few sets of bases matched?
That is a very good thought!

I have a NOS set of bases. I could look at getting that made. 3D printed might be more cost effective than a PI mould but fibreglass could be a viable option. How much are the VW mirror bodies?
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That is a very good thought!

I have a NOS set of bases. I could look at getting that made. 3D printed might be more cost effective than a PI mould but fibreglass could be a viable option. How much are the VW mirror bodies?
I have a pair I will donate to the project, I think I picked them up for $30 on ebay and they are in good shape.
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I can get VW mirrors from rabbits at local yards several times a year for $35
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Please keep us posted on your progress!
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klaus, there is a guy in Georgia that had a pair available within the last 2 months. He was asking $700 to $750. I cannot remember if he was missing both gaskets or just one side or if one side was in poor shape and the other satisfactory. If you want his contact info feel free to PM me and I can make the connection.

I have a pair on my car and a few years ago I had also thought of 3D printing (the original bases seem akin to a pot metal) or taking mirrors from 1st gen Jettas and pairing them up with standard 944 bases. I somewhat remember seeing a DIY on the latter sometime in 2012 but have not since been able to locate the site. I have a small collection of Jetta mirrors at this point and the problem I came upon was that the pin/rod that connects the mirror housing with the mirror base seems to be pressed on and required more skills/resources than I had to remove and then to press on the new base. Absent of a picture I am not sure how else to describe it here other than for me personally it looked like more trouble than just waiting for a pair of Turbo Cup mirrors to come around and then paying good money for them. In short, how the two pieces (mirror housing and base) attach seems to be as much of the puzzle piece as having bases fabricated.

Lastly, the gaskets appear to be NLA. So in addition to the above-mentioned fabrication, the gaskets are the next hurdle.

Lastly again! Just adding my limited experience here in hopes that it can be of assistance in the pursuit of this project. Not at all trying to be a downer on this thread, in fact quite the opposite. I would love to see someone follow through and either fab the bases and find a way to attach the MK1 housings or figure how to attach MK1 housings to stock 944 bases. It would be nice to not have to hunt for a pair to come available!
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Ah...gaskets are another great candidate for 3D printing.
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Matt,

Using the stock 944 base seems like a good idea, I have a few sets of factory mirrors lying around on shelves, need to take them, and the Mk2 mirrors apart and see how much work would be needed.

I'm thinking there are enough people out there who would like manual mirrors we could make this happen.
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Just saw these on Ebay OUCH
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PORSCHE-944-924-MANUAL-MIRRORS-RARE-update-photos-/223220334391?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276
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Another option to consider...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mvoe4UrqfM
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That guy is out of his mind. 1) Those are damaged 2) They are missing the manual adjustment cables.

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Another option to consider...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mvoe4UrqfM
I had thought about going that route, but I just don't think the round mirror fits the squared off 944 as much as the flag mirror.
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I looked for a long time till I found the perfect mirror that fits the Porsche 944 door (mirror base mounting profile)... they fit right up against the upper outer metal front frame within in 1/4 of an inch and 2 bolts that mount to the doors with a gasket that fits perfect to the door. the drivers side has a manual adjustment cable that you can mount to the inside of the upper door frame right in front of the dash vent. They work perfect... Camaro Z8* 82' - 88'.



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I supplied these mirrors to this guy for $500 shipped from the UK with a couple of small items. Trying to sell them for more than double, WOW.

I have had a few sets of these so may be able to source another set for you. Send me a pm if interested.
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I supplied these mirrors to this guy for $500 shipped from the UK with a couple of small items. Trying to sell them for more than double, WOW.

I have had a few sets of these so may be able to source another set for you. Send me a pm if interested.

Justin,

I'll PM you over on facebook, and see if you can track down a set.

It looks like the ebay guy is trying to corner the market on these mirrors, he said he has 4 sets of them. Buying them and then selling them for 2x is good business if you can get it, but certainly annoying for those of us who want to use the mirrors.
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I have a single mirror installed on my car (924S Special Edition), if you need any pictures, measurements or any info like that don't hesitate to ask, I'd love to help with this 3D printing idea.
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I have a single mirror installed on my car (924S Special Edition), if you need any pictures, measurements or any info like that don't hesitate to ask, I'd love to help with this 3D printing idea.
To make the 3D printing thing happen we might need to get someone to loan a set (or perhaps just one side) of original Cup Mirrors, or more precisely an an original cup mirror base.

Also not giving up on the idea of using the stock base and the VW mirror. Just have not had time to explore.
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I have a NOS cup mirror and have had a quick look at it. Need to look further to understand how to seperate base and head. Seems that VW aftermarket heads are readily available and affordable but producing the bases would not be straightforward. The base would need to be fabricated to accomodate the forces of rotating the head over the 'cam' of the spring retainer. Not sure that there would be sufficient demand to justify the work needed to find a proper solution.
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