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vin decoder for 1980

Hello,where would i find a decoder for 80 model euro model.
Old 10-19-2006, 03:58 PM
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what are you trying to find out?
17 digit vins were instituted in '81 so carfax/carcheck etc are useless
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mainly if i have the 300hp engine?I guess i really need id number off the engine.
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I believe that the first 300 hp euro model was in 84. The engine code would be M 28/21 or M 28/22(auto). M 28/19 and M 28/20 928s had 234 hp SAE net, 242 DIN. This is probably your engine. US versions had 220 SAE net and 231 DIN Hp. All this from the shop manuals. Check your engine number. I have a complete set of manuals and will be able to look up the specs.
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Well i have the 928s euro with the 4.7 which i have read is 300hp.
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Well, you can believe anything you want.
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I will get you some more info and you can look in your books so we will
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The 4.7L 300 hp "S" K-jet engine was 1st installed in 1980.

Code on the engine is M28:11 for 5spd; M28:12 for auto.

Codes of M28:09 or :10 would be for the 4.5L euro and codes of M28:13 or :14 would be a US version (L-jet)

VIN codes for '80 would be something like this:

92AO80xxxx = ROW (euro) 928 w/4.5 L K-Jet
92AO81xxxx = US version 928 w/ 4.5 L L-jet
92AO82xxxx = ROW "S" model w/4.7L 300HP K-jet
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my vin is 92a0820661 so i guess i do have the 300hp engine.Thanks
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you may have the 300 via the vin number, but the only way to accurately verify this is to check the engine stamping number. This stamping is located on the front passenger side block riser.

the engine stamping number you are looking for is:

m28/11 manual trans
M28/12 auto trans

I frankly, do not trust vin numbers. the engine may not be the original one installed in your shark, or the factory may have installed some thing totally different. The Germans are notorious for changing all sorts of things in the middle of a production run.

928ram is correct on his post (according to 928 Specialist's website/ engine data)

Strange, the vin #s between the 4.5L motor (229 HP) and the 4.7L motor (300hp) is 20,000 digits different.

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Well i checked today on the engine number.It is a m28/11.So that should answer the question from the vin and the engine number.
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congrats!! glad you've got the 300 hp.

while I would rather have bought a 300 myself, I bought my '80 Euro for 3 basic reasons:

1. Euro model (Euro cams/heads/etc)
2. 5-speed (can't imagine driving a slush box)
3. rare color --Oak Grun (Oak Green)

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Well mine still needs some tlc but it is a eggshell white with black interior.I am not sure of correct paint code ,but it still runs great!
Here is a pic.
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You'll find the paint code sticker on the driver's door (rear) frame, where the other stickers are located.

In other words, open the driver's door, look to your right/your "other left", below the "B" pillar, and you will see a sticker that has a number code and color code (written in German on Euro's).

The other place to look is the "build sticker", located under the carpet opposite of the battery, under the rear hatch. All options are listed on that sticker. If yours is missing (mine is), go to Porsche Club America's site and order a certificate of authenticity. $25 will get you a detailed build on your ride.

If you're car has the original paint color (I see someone has painted the door trim and lower panels black---probably not original) you're code will verify that your car at least has the correct color on it.

Interesting though, yours doesn't have a rear side marker light. From what I have gathered, most Euro's that were DOT'd had some sort of rear marker light added to pass US Dot when imported.......

Please do something with that single pipe thing sticking out back......Twin pipes, please.

Nice ride---congrats!!!

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Well the previous owner stated the color and the undercoat on rockers is original.I do have twin pipes with borla muffler just hard to see at that angle.
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Rhjames,

i also checked my '80 Euro for the engine tag and ...you guessed it...its the 300HP, too!

Actually, at 300 horsepower, the car really isn't that fast. I had my doors blown off by a WRX Subaru. It wasn't even close. RH, how can your 229 HP version be so fast, yet my more powerful 300 version be this slow. Shoot.
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There must be something wrong .My 300 hp is very quick all the way up to 120mph and still pulls.I haveny ran across a wrx but a few other cars didnt have a chance!
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Just kidding about the pipes (ha, ha, ha.....)! Mine are a custom job, not the "store bought" stuff. Much better results, less money. Scares the heck out of women and children.

There are a lot of things that come into play when dicing it up with other "rides"......

As for why my Euro was even able to keep up with the Beemer the other day, who knows. It was a 4th gear deal, and frankly, I think the Beemer guy was just caught by surprise more than anything else.

The only reason I didn't just totally worry him was an upcoming red light that he was really late going thru. I stopped (really hard on the brakes, considering I haven't installed my S4 brakes yet), but if there had been someone coming thru the intersection from the other way it would have been a mess......

I suspect your encounter with the WRX is not unusual, but remember our cars are 20 plus years old!!! Subaru was still asleep at the wheel when Porsche's were blasting down the Autobahn at 180 mph plus.

I read a comment the other day that went like this:

Why buy a 20 plus year old car that has numerous finicky issues (electricals, tranny/auto, expensive as heck to work on), when your teen-aged neighbor girl can buy a brand new Scion (for less than 20 G's) that'll suck the paint right of the car of your dreams?????

Answer:

Because we 928 owners know/enjoy what we have. The big difference is when I put this thing into a high speed turn (around a corner, so to speak), the RSX that was giving me a run was left spinning out when his back came around......

Does that WRX turn heads everywhere you go? How about the RSX? Everywhere I go with my shark, it gets looked at.

That's the deal.

OH well.....I'm getting long with that stuff. As for your paint, again, consult your built sticker or your paint sticker on the door sill. The Germans are famous for changing things right in the middle of a production run without any reason for doing so......



Enjoy!!!!---Russ



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