I provided the name of two witnesses from the online 928 community who i've raced. Lance is still around on rennlist, and you can reach racegal at my site www.a-10.org in motorsports forum.

If that's not good enough for you, i just don't care. :)

Video: Observe the 5-70mph in under six seconds (13-19 second mark) run at the beginning of this video:

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You can hear the 1-2 upshift at 55mph. At the end, when you hear me saying, "We can get yours, and do the same thing", i'm telling racegal we'll film her 928 next.

Racegal is the lass with the 83US that i beat by 12 car lengths.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...83timestwo.jpg
Mine is the silver one, heather's is the blue one.

An older pic of the motor (before i yanked condenser):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...nt7Stage41.jpg

Sure, i could just put a turbo on it too. You buy me the superlightweight rims (but for the love of god PLEASE no 19" ghetto rims), i'll put them on. ;)

I would never go bigger than 17" on a 928, cause anything bigger looks, well....bad.

Different strokes Sniper, you have your car just the way you want, and its great, just not what I want. My car is going to be quieter than stock with more sound insulation, keep all the comfort items like power seats and AC, and get HP added until its what I like.

Supercharged US 81 - stock except for exhaust with 98,000 miles on the original engine.
350.8 RWHP
344.2 RWTQ

Air fuel is dirty, needs to be cleaned up. Also found a restriction in the intake box - should free up another 3-4 psi.

http://www.erik27.com/Andrew07/BigBoost.jpg

OK Mule, I'll humor you just this once.

Since you nothing about theory, as proved in our last foray, I suggest you look up unsprung weight and it's relationship to HP increases when you reduce unsprung weight. (I am thankful, though, that you finally admitted that your presentation was flawed, even though you still haven't got a clue about my side of the argument.)

After you do that, then get back to me with the formula's and we'll compare notes.


UNTIL then, you still don't have a clue.


AND NO, Sniper, I don't have ghetto 19's on my 928, they are OEM Porsche 997 wheels.......I can't believe you didn't see the weight reduction that you so adamantly advocate, as opposed to increasing engine HP for your performance mods......Then again, maybe you don't like Carrera's? They are Porsche's tooo.....

44 lbs gone, and I didn't have to trash 5% of my interior---that's a half a tenth off my quarter mile time if it was just plain old weight reduction (like throwing out the back seats). The difference is it's unsprung weight reduction, which yields greater performance gains----something that Mule is going to have to research for him to understand as well.

Ask yourself this:

Why do Indycar, Formula 1, IMSA, GrandAM, LeMans, and other competitors use large diameter/low aspect tire/wheel combinations on their race cars?????

Two obvious answers.

1. Shorter sidewalls flex less.

2. Lower unsprung weight.


and then again (for Sniper's enjoyment), I don't use RICER SPACERS on my ride just so I can look cooooool.......


nothing changes, just the same old story. failure to read the whole post, or a post referencing the subject at hand. How are you guys going to learn anything if you don't read the whole thing?

Mmm....I believe it was 3 months ago I wrote about unsprung weight reduction.....Sniper should remember, unless he's still trying to figure out how to unbolt his (maybe) 40 lug nuts to change his wheels.....ha, ha, ha.....


19X8 front (with 235's), 19X11 rear (with 315's) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1180847550.jpg


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Rh all you proved on our last exchange is that you were the only person here too dumb to realize the the discussion was about peak HP. Now you claim 33% performance increase from tires % wheels. Wait till I get my light weight led tail light bulbs installed.

But you saved the best for last.
"Why do Indycar, Formula 1, IMSA, GrandAM, LeMans, and other competitors use large diameter/low aspect tire/wheel combinations on their race cars?????"

It appears that the best performance increase your 928 could get is a pair of spectacles for you. Have you ever seen a formula 1 car? or an indy car? Formula 1 has very tall sidewalls. Indy has taller sidewalls than you or zillions of other street cars.

I think if you call Ferrari or Williams & give them your prformance secret you'll get your foot in the door & then you can tell them how port tuning is a load of cr*p. They'll put you in charge of racing operations.

RH:

"Mmm....I believe it was 3 months ago I wrote about unsprung weight reduction.....Sniper should remember, unless he's still trying to figure out how to unbolt his (maybe) 40 lug nuts."

(Mr. sniper replies soundless by rolling eyes at mr. white trash redneck truck driver with the superiority complex and the butter-knife dull wit. :))

If RH is having fun with his car, then its something I want to know about, because FUN is what I want. Same for Sniper, if pulling a lot of weight out made it more fun, I want to hear about it.

I don't see either as some kind of gospel I have to follow if I want to have fun, just some other ways to do it.

"superiority complex", wow in a 928 owner? I can't believe it since we are all such meek humble people.

Each of you are getting just entirely too anal about all of this.....

can't any of you take a little joking without 15 pages of useless discussion of theory this and theory that?

Come on.....


(Sniper----don't you think you should be a little more polite on these forums???? They really aren't for name calling, or your bigotry-----Think about it. You do have 40 lug nuts on the car, don't you? Come on....tell us the truth!!!!)

And yes Mule, I do have LED lights in my 928.....

I only offered another example of how to remove weight from the car, without throwing the baby out as well.

Just an addition to the point that Sniper was so graciously trying to point out----

If you research unsprung weight and it's reduction benefits, you'll find that it is SIMILAR to adding horsepower.....Unsprung weight reduction is more beneficial that just plain old removing dead weight (DRAG RACING 101). For every 100 pounds you remove, you cut your ET by one tenth (again, DRAG RACING 101).

If he can't afford the newer tires/wheels Porsche is using, or just plain likes his setup, that great, too. It's his car, not mine.....He has nice ride, but he just should not have been so offended when receiving a little jabbing----after all, he's good at giving it (?!?!?!)


LIGHTEN UP!!!!!! (LITERALLY------)

No kidding? Tires and wheels can result in 33% performance improvement? Call Ferrari! I can see it now Rhjames, director of racing operations, Ferrari.

Tell this crap to someone who doesn't know better. You had your head up your a$$ on the boost issue, then the port tuning issue and now the 33% performance increase tires & wheels. And you knew what was what all along. You were just going to show us you were the greatest wordsmith since Mark Twain.

See the dog with the Christmas hat? He's waaaaaay smarter than this!

repeat above post----

get over it Mule, you neither read the information, nor understand it.

YOU admitted I was correct in my rebuttal, and now you're pissed again because of something you failed to research nor understand, nor have a clue about in the context as it was presented-----sound familiar?

it's the same kind of bull**** you presented to everyone else here. So why are you so offended?

go back and read my posts on the nineteens and then make your stupid comments.

if you want to debate the issue, that's fine. But please quit this insane quest of yours, just because you still can't get over the FACT that I busted your theory----AS YOU PRESENTED IT.


AGAIN----

FACT 1. YOUR THEORY (INCOMPLETE AS PRESENTED)

FACT 2. YOUR THEORY WAS BUSTED AS PRESENTED (YOU MADE NO MENTION OF PEAK HORSEPOWER OR RPM----I DID----YOU "ASSUMED" EVERYONE KNEW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT PEAK HORSEPOWER----I DID NOT ASSUME THIS----WHO'S THE ASS FOR ASSUMING?----maybe you haven't heard the "assumption theory"?)

FACT 3. YOU DON'T RESEARCH INFO FOR YOUR REBUTTAL (GAINS WITH UNSPRUNG WEIGHT REDUCTION----WHERE'S YOUR PROOF?)

FACT 4. YOU CAN'T MEASURE PRESSURE IN THE INTAKE CAUSED BY POSITIVE PRESSURE WAVES WHILE THE ENGINE IS RUNNING (PUT A GAUGE ON IT AND GIVE ME A POSITIVE PRESSURE READING ON A N/A ENGINE WHILE RUNNING----YOU HAVEN'T, NOR CAN YOU----OR, GIVE ME A COPY OF THE PUBLISHED TECHNICAL PAPER WHERE IT HAS DEFINITIVE PROOF OTHER THAN JUST THEORY----I'M WAITING.......ANY TIME NOW????)

FACT 5. YOU ADMITTED I WAS CORRECT IN MY REBUTTAL (CHANGE YOUR MIND?)

FACT 6. YOU STILL HAVE YET TO PROVIDE ANY CREDENTIALS TO BACK UP ANY ASSERTIONS YOU MAKE (I HAVE CONSULTED 2 MECHANICAL ENGINEERING DEGREED PERSONS WITH OVER 90+ TOTAL YEARS OF EXPERIENCE BETWEEN THE 2 OF THEM, TO BACK UP MY STUFF----WHERE'S YOURS?)

Question:

CAN YOU NAME THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ATMOSPHERE/HORSEPOWER THEORY?

(Please tell us, so we can really appreciate the fact that you have been in a real physics class and actually paid attention.....OR, maybe you're just repeating stuff that you heard/read on some distant forum that hasn't got a clue either?)


Are we done with this now? We should be----again, if you want to argue theory, present your facts. Don't just throw it out there... that you can't believe something you have not researched.

The 33% gain was in the context of the theory that unsprung weight reduction yields a certain amount of (horsepower) for a certain amount of lbs removed. In my case, my 229hp Euro (factory rating) would have netted a theoretical HP gain of approximately 33%, bringing my HP number to near 300. I removed 44 lbs of unsprung weight by switching to the 19 inch set up. Will it show a gain of 33% on a chassis dyno? Of course not, it's just a discussion of theory. It's that simple, and absolutely nothing to get worked up about, as you certainly have......

I don't have the formulae on hand at the moment, but like I've said for umpteenth time, it's on my previous posts where the discussion was about wheel/tire weight reduction (19's).

go read it-----quit arguing about this.

Get over it.


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I'm not any more impressed with your wordsmitthing than I am with your knowledge of automobiles. The only thing you may have busted was your own head on the wall.

And now you make this stupid claim about 33% performance improvement from tires & wheels. And just as I said, using only your infallible word to back it up, you expect me to prove you didn't? Is that bruise on your forehead starting to hurt yet.

I went to the moon last night. Can you prove I didn't?

FACT 1. YOUR THEORY (INCOMPLETE AS PRESENTED)

But it was complete enough for any person of normal intelligence (or even a dog with a Santa hat) to follow,

FACT 2. YOUR THEORY WAS BUSTED AS PRESENTED (YOU MADE NO MENTION OF PEAK HORSEPOWER OR RPM----I DID----YOU "ASSUMED" EVERYONE KNEW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT PEAK HORSEPOWER----I DID NOT ASSUME THIS----WHO'S THE ASS FOR ASSUMING?----maybe you haven't heard the "assumption theory"?)

Since ONLY YOU thought we were measuring hp at idle, your stupid remarks were irrelevant to the discussion.


FACT 3. YOU DON'T RESEARCH INFO FOR YOUR REBUTTAL (GAINS WITH UNSPRUNG WEIGHT REDUCTION----WHERE'S YOUR PROOF?)

Didn't need to. I wasn't responding to anything other than a stupid claim from a guy with a plastic"police intercepror" badge glued to the back of his 928.

FACT 4. YOU CAN'T MEASURE PRESSURE IN THE INTAKE CAUSED BY POSITIVE PRESSURE WAVES WHILE THE ENGINE IS RUNNING (PUT A GAUGE ON IT AND GIVE ME A POSITIVE PRESSURE READING ON A N/A ENGINE WHILE RUNNING----YOU HAVEN'T, NOR CAN YOU----OR, GIVE ME A COPY OF THE PUBLISHED TECHNICAL PAPER WHERE IT HAS DEFINITIVE PROOF OTHER THAN JUST THEORY----I'M WAITING.......ANY TIME NOW????)

And since you can't measure the speed of light with a radar gun, Einstien's an idiot right?

FACT 5. YOU ADMITTED I WAS CORRECT IN MY REBUTTAL (CHANGE YOUR MIND?)

Never.

FACT 6. YOU STILL HAVE YET TO PROVIDE ANY CREDENTIALS TO BACK UP ANY ASSERTIONS YOU MAKE (I HAVE CONSULTED 2 MECHANICAL ENGINEERING DEGREED PERSONS WITH OVER 90+ TOTAL YEARS OF EXPERIENCE BETWEEN THE 2 OF THEM, TO BACK UP MY STUFF----WHERE'S YOURS?)

Your engineer told you I was right. I consulted the dog & the hamster. The hamster was still dizzy, but smarter than you. He thought the "police interceptor" badge was lame as well.

Question:

CAN YOU NAME THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ATMOSPHERE/HORSEPOWER THEORY?

God.


Anything else I can help you with?

Mule,

while is totally impossible for you to get off your high horse and admit you were wrong ( Yes, you did once, but now that you're crawfishin', your integrity is at stake-----), I will refresh you feeble memory for the absolute last time.....


Your statement NEVER said one work about rpms (idle or otherwise), and NEVER said anything about peak horsepower.


That being said, and you can go back and re-read your own writings, your mouth again has caused you to be the ASS in assume.

As for any claims I have made regarding performance improvements with removing unsprung weight, YOU SHOULD READ MY POST ON THE SUBJECT BEFORE OPENING YOUR COMPUTER........

I'm done-------

I've written entirely too much in rebuttal to your feeble arguments, and you have proven once again that you can't admit mistakes and have no concept to theory.

F--- you and have a nice day.