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great deal on '89 5 speed S4, time running out quickly!
I've been looking for a good 5 speed S4 for a client that is straight, clean, no paintwork, clean Carfax, etc. and showed him this one, but he didn't like the color grey. But regardless, this car checked out and could be one great deal for the right person. It's an '89 5 speed S4 with C2's, aero mirrors, and is in outstanding condition. It's also a California car, so it hasn't ben exposed to the elements. Carfax clean as well. 4 + hours left in the auction, and it's only at $7900. If the guy's desperate, it might be worth bidding on at least. It's really not worth more than $10k due to miles, but the interior says it's been very well taken care of. Good lookin' too! Here she is:
I have ABSOLUTELY no affiliation or interest in this car whatsoever. Just pointing out what appears to be a potentially great deal! Todd Johnson
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Fair or not seems most Porsche buyers are brutal on value when it comes to miles.
It does look like it could be a nice driver. Todd did you or anybody you know actually put eyes on this car?
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113K is nothing for miles on that car. I gave $10K for a car with 169K on the clock...still a great deal.
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I'm looking at a car with 195k on it now, but there is no way around the mileage giving the resale value a BIG hit. Most people I don't think even give a high mileage car a second glance, I only do it because I want some parts.
This one might be a good car, but I'm not sure its a good value. Bids on ebay can be a little low, but not that far off the mark and thats drawing from a national marketplace of buyers. Put $5k into fixing minor bits that don't show and didn't bother the previous owner enough to fix, and its still going to be worth about what the top ebay bid is. I'm curious to see where it goes though, and if it makes reserve, kind of doubt the later.
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Todd P.S. The venetian blue/tan '89 5 speed with high mileage also looks to be a winner. Engine intake is flawless for those miles as well as everything else, and once again, clean Carfax!
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This being a 5-spd car will help...they are hard to find, this is why I jumped hard on mine when it turned up. My car, while not perfect, was a great find. I'd bet the reserve on this car is at least $11K.
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Run Another Vehicle History Report: Print Report Report Generated for Todd E Johnson For Personal Use Only 1989 PORSCHE 928 S-4 WP0JB0924KS860252 COUPE 5.0L V8 FI DOHC 32V / REAR WHEEL DRIVE Standard Equipment | Safety Options Hi-I'm the CARFAX Xpert™. I'm here to help you better understand the data in this CARFAX Report. Did you know... We checked over 4 billion records from thousands of data sources for this vehicle This vehicle qualifies for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee The last reported odometer reading was 110,960 A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. Other information about this vehicle, including problems, may not have been reported to CARFAX. Use this report as one important tool, along with a vehicle inspection and test drive, to make a better decision about your next used car. CARFAX guarantees the information in this section Salvage | Junk | Rebuilt Guaranteed No Problem Fire/Flood | Hail Damage | Buyback/Lemon Guaranteed No Problem Not Actual Mileage | Exceeds Mechanical Limits Guaranteed No Problem GUARANTEED - None of these major title problems were reported by a state Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). If you find that any of these title problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. Register | View Terms Not all accidents or other issues are reported to CARFAX Total Loss Check No total loss reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported Frame Damage Check No frame damage reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported Airbag Deployment Check No airbag deployment reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported Odometer Rollback Check No indication of an odometer rollback. No Issues Indicated Accident Check No accidents reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported Manufacturer Recall Check No recalls still require repair. No Recalls Reported Basic Warranty Check No data reported to CARFAX. No Data Reported Tell us what you know about this vehicle Looking for other 1989 PORSCHE 928 vehicles like this one in your area? Search CARFAX Hot Listings for an up-to-date list of vehicles in your area, all with the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee! A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 4 billion vehicle history events and found 17 record(s) for this 1989 PORSCHE 928 S-4 (WP0JB0924KS860252). Date: Mileage: Source: Comments: 10/09/1992 California Motor Vehicle Dept. Title issued or updated 02/22/1996 23,547 California Inspection Station Maricopa, CA Passed emissions inspection 08/23/1997 28,886 California Inspection Station Maricopa, CA Passed emissions inspection 08/29/1997 29,184 California Motor Vehicle Dept. 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Los Gatos, CA Title issued or updated New owner reported Loan or lien reported 08/19/2004 106,053 California Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection 02/01/2006 110,960 California Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection 07/04/2007 Porsche Cars North America No recalls open for repair Tell us what you know about this vehicle? www.carfax.com New Owner Reported When a vehicle is sold to a new owner, the Title must be transferred to the new owner(s) at a Department of Motor Vehicles. Ownership History CARFAX defines an owner as an individual or business that possesses and uses a vehicle. Not all title transactions represent changes in ownership. To provide estimated number of owners, CARFAX proprietary technology analyzes all the events in a vehicle history. Estimated ownership is available for vehicles manufactured after 1994 and titled solely in the US including Puerto Rico. 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I'd be willing to wager that car could be bought for $9000 right now! = Todd Johnson
All right, you're on. You get him to agree to $9000 and I will buy it today, and pay you a finders fee of $1,000. If you fail, you pay me $1,000. Dead serious and it's in writing. |
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I'll make this very simple for you. Absolutely not! Owing you if I was unable to close the deal? You've freakin' lost your mind! I would do something as generously nice as this for you, right after I close the same type of deal for tdelarm! Just re-read what you've asked me to do for you, and somehow what penalties I would be given if I was unable to do this wonderful favor. You Rennlisters are something else, that's for sure! But I will offer this to anyone else other than player hating, follow me to Pelican, Rennlisters that would be interested in me getting this exact deal done for them, for free, if your interested. I would have to assume that anyone in their right mind wouldn't ask me for a favor and then expect me to give them money if I was unable to accomplish the well worked on favor for them. So, in honor of Charley B, any Pelican member that would like to have me offer up my services of landing ludicrously low prices on very low mileage, 5 speed S4's, GT's and GTS's, just let me know, and I'll do it for absolutely nothing but a kind, thank you, Todd! 
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Give me a break Todd. I'm neither asking you for a favor or offering to do you one.
You said you were willing to wager that the car could be bought for $9,000 right now. I think it's a deal at 10k so I am accepting your challange. You set the price for the car but didn't establish the amount of the wager so I am suggesting $1000. I don't have any animosity toward you, I just think you're a total Bull ***** artist, and I'm willing to put up 10K against that S4 to prove it. Now, you can engage in all the rhetorical obfuscation you want, but the bottom line is "Do you stand by your wager or was it just your normal dishonest bull *****?" This is real simple, yes or no. |
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You think I'm a bull**** artist, huh? Well, unlike Rennlist where conjecture and assumptions rule over reality, Pelican bases their opinions on facts. So, let's review the facts, shall we? First, in order to get actual facts, you must first get the viewpoint of me from people who have actually dealt with me before, oh, and paid money for the flawless, concours examples of 928's I've sold to them as well. Now, their opinions would be much more credible than a simple, "your a bull**** artist" comment based on nothing more than jealousy and hatred from an individual who has never even met me, done business with me, or even looked at one of my 928's. But how could we go about finding actual evidence to support whether I'm actually a good guy to do business with, or a common "bull**** artist" as you've so quickly refered to me as by someone who's never even met me before? Wait, I know how! My Ebay feedback profile! That would be a great tool to measure the actual, true testimonies from those that have actually done business with me before! Okay, I just checked my Ebay username's feedback profile (*928gts*) from which I've sold countless concours quality 928's from, and what do you know, it's 100% PERFECT! Now Charley, that would almost directly contradict your assumptions and conjecture theories which were scientifically based on, well, what was it again? Can I take three guesses, of which my first two don't count? Jealousy! That's right, jealousy has reared it's ugly little head on good ole Charley B, and he's got nothing to back up any of the, and I think I can actually use this statement with a little more credibility than you did, BULL****! Bye, bye Charley B. You've just been officially punked! But it just doesn't feel the same as it used to without all of the unfounded Rennlist pigpilers, does it? Save yourself the additional humility and refrain from bringing your gang over here to fight your battles for you, because they are all unfounded and unwarranted and really not liked very well over here either. Low Miler.............Charley B's school teacher!
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So I have posted briefly in two of your threads, asked a few questions, stated a few opinions and tried to accept one challange that you had offered.
For this you have issued forth with paragraph after paragraph of invective, name calling and hate. Man, you are one messed up little puppy. So, I guess you're reneging on your challange. I thought as much. For all the names you have called me, let me offer one to you. Coward. |
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I gave you the facts, you of course chose to ignore them (in typical Rennlister fashion), and still went on rambling that I owed you somthing or I was a coward. If cowards the term you use to describe genious, then I'll accept your fordrawn conclusions as fact. And thank you. Oh, and why not try and find a positive hobby instead of making rude challenges to people you've never met before. And possibly seek some counseling before you hurt yourself or become a danger to others. The latter I'd strongly suggest because I think your seriously borderline right now. It might not be too late. Everything will be okay, Charley, but in the meantime, plase stay away from sharp objects.......... Low Miler
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I'm not sure why you insist on attacking me, but can we dispense with all the personal crap and just concentrate on the challange you have place before us?
Now, if the $1000 wager is a little too rich for your blood perhaps we could cut it to $500. I'm not asking you for any favors here, I'm just trying to accept your wager. |
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And secondly, when I made that comment in the first place, it was made in a hypothetical tone. First of all, I would never make a wager in which I could possibly turn a favor into a loss of my own money, and I really would have never expected any lunatic to actually take it that way. But I obviously understimated your mental illness with regards to taking it as a serious offer. Did anyone else think that I was actually offering to throw my own money out against a wager comment made on a car I simply threw onto the forum as a favor? That's just idiotic, but an idiot would certainly take it that way. And the fact that your so confident about this one particular 928 not selling for $9000 is awfully suspicious to me. In fact, it is with almost absolute certainty that you are somehow affiliated with the seller in one way or another. I'm going to ask around with a few of my freinds still on Rennlist to inquire if there is indeed a connection of some sort. If you know me, then you know I steal these cars all the time, but your sooooo certain about this one particular 928, that it's just to suspiious to me. And let me reinterate, even if I could close the deal, I certainly would never do it for you anyway. So why do you keep insisting on this wager thingy? Because you already know the outcome, don't you? And Charley, if I were truly making a wager with a broke ass punk like you, I'd never make it for $1000 anyway, because I know you could never cover it! And since you'd certainly lose, it would be a total waste of my time anyway, especially for such pennies. The only reason your so hot on this one is due to inside information, plain and simple. Your a little rat, you know that? And stinky too. The personal threat you must have felt from my having made that comment about your friends car, probably made you read into that whole wager thing as personally as you did. So therefore, you decided to try and make a wager against me to somehow stick up fo your friends lowball final offers on the car. And who better to take it out on than the guy you always wished you could be........me! Yep, you know I get these car's with 30K on them for $11-$12K all the time, so you would never have been so confident about this one car unless you knew something about it that I didn't. And once again, a Rennlister has taken what was a kind offering thread and turned it into a personal war and wagering battle. You guys are a breed all your own. You will get no back-up here, unless one of your Rennlist buddy's signs up for a membership just to get on this thread to back your negativity up. And if I know you Rennlisters, I'll almost wager with all certainty that one of you guys will pop up here any second with a 1 or 2 post history in your defense. It's all about anger and hate with you guys, isn't it? There should be a Rennlister signing on in your defense about riiiiiiiiiight now! Tell me I don't know scum when I see it? Sorry Charley, boy I bet you hear that alot! I'm not fallin' for your insults, scam, and jealous revenge. However, nice negative try though! Loser! Low Miler............still posting free great deals when I see them!
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I'm going to bed now, so maybe you can find another Pelican offering free parts or something to get into an argument with until tomorrow.............
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I assure you I have absolutely no knowledge of this seller.
I'll tell you what, you just said you "get these car's with 30k on them for $11-$12K all the time". I will accept your challenge with a $1000 wager for any '89 5spd in comparable condition and options with 30K miles or less, on E*bay or Craigs list. You seem concerned that I might not be able to cover the action so I am willing to put $12000, make that $13000, to include your fee into an escrow, along with a $1000 from you, to be held until the car is purchased or the agreed upon time has expired. |
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Except for the "buy it now" accidental low prices, craigslist and ebay are just average prices and easy to shop. My guess is that the real deals come from beating the bushes, talking to a lot of mechanics etc. and being generous when somebody tips you to a hot car that isn't on the market yet.
Easily 75% of what we see on ebay and craigs etc. are flips or dealers, the bargains are one step farther down the food chain directly with the PO. As far as this car goes, nobody can predict what an owner is going to do, and what they might do today they might not do tomorrow etc. If you want the car talk to the seller, don't expect Todd to do it for you.
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