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Whats on your shelf of goops and sprays?
I am accumulating quite a bunch of goop and spray for the 928, enough its completely taking over a shelf. If there is interest and replies to this thread I will edit and try to keep the info in some kind of master list format.
Penetrating oil. Right now I buy anything I see that I don't have. WD40 PB Blaster Liquid Wrench Breakfree Kroil Marvel Mystery Oil PSF 50/50 with acetone Anti-seize. Can I get away with one GOOD product or do a need a variety? Wurth CU-800 Bostik Pure Nickel Anti Seize Technology, I ended up buying 4 kinds of it off ebay, pure nickel, alumiplate, special, and something else. Gasket goop. No idea what I should have. Contact cleaner and preservative. About the first question I posted here, and I still haven't decided what to use. Stabilant 22 Rejex Corrosion-X OX GARD Vaseline Lock lubricant. Graphite mixed in the base solvent of WD40, Stoddard solvent, which evaporates leaving the graphite, seems to work ok. Silicone spray. The kind of stuff for getting orings and hoses on tight fittings. Wurth HHS 2000, sprays wet like penetrating oil, sticks where you put it, my new best friend for hinges, slides, etc. High pressure and temperature rated too. Parts cleaner. Simple Green Brake cleaner Citrus based solvent CRC MAF cleaner, sounds like good stuff, $6 at Kragen. Motor oil. When I put oil in the car, before the empty goes in recycle I let it drain into any handy small plastic tub, and later use it anytime I want just a drop or two of nothing special oil. Last edited by Danglerb; 04-30-2008 at 10:36 PM.. |
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I'm a big fan of Liquid Wrench
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Kragen has a coupon via email, $0.75 a can for liquid wrench, limit two.
Permetex orange hand cleaner goop 25 cents Gunk Engine brite 99 cents Scott shop towels on a roll $1 The way I burn through PB Blaster I may print another page of coupons from the email and get a couple more cans. All the penetrating oil stuff seems to have Stoddard solvent as the base, but with various additives. I don't know if any are better or even different, but can't hurt to have plenty of cheap stuff plus some others to try if it doesn't work. A couple more that sound good are; Mopar Rust Penetrant Lear Corrosion Block (a marine product) GM heat valve lubricant Nice article in the link below on stuck rusty bolts. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3828/is_199906/ai_n8872738 Beeswax was also a suggestion in the article, heat the item, apply and allow to wick in solidify.
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I still don't have room to put a car in my two car garage due to my old computer collecting hobby, and I have a 350 ft2 storage unit as well.
When do I get to meet my brothers Bill and Gus? As for goops and sprays, I don't know what I need. Good mechanics differ in the amount of stuff they have on hand. Greg has a hazmat cabinet full of "stuff", I think if Wurth makes it, he has it. Paints, cleaners, lubes, sealers and stuff I have no idea what it does. I don't need anything like that amount, and Walmart is open 24/7, but I would like to have all the basics covered so the midnight crew doesn't start greeting me by name. First job I do will be gasket goop intensive, swapping a Cobra intake on my 91 Mustang. Later on I want to give a try at rebuilding a G28/08 transmission and maybe, MAYBE put together a Euro or Hybrid motor, so assembly lubes, and more sealing goop there. I figure a shop is a mans castle, however you like it is the way it should be, as long as its not too much of a hazard.
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Nearly all of what you've detailed but I'll add a few. First of all, I have ARMOR-ALL everywhere. I have two bottles ready, to stand behind the current half-used bottle. I use the Armor-All on my POD, and on the air-dam and spoiler on the rear of my 928. It also goes on my door sills. Armor-All is a product that does amazing things, primarily because it is a spf30 sunblock. It is also a polymer oil, and makes things look dark. To boot- it is an alcohol based substance. The Alcohol is to make it flow smoothly. The plastic is the preservative, and there is a simple sun-block in the formula. This all sounds pretty inert, but it isn't: Armor-All needs to be used on a regular basis, or the alcohol will dry out the surface quickly. An Armor-All'ed surface will "age" quicker than a non AA surface. A black rubber product exposed to Florida sun for 10 years will look NEW if it has been Armor-All'ed every 14 days. Hello? I've done this on several cars-! Armor-All works. I have no affiliation to the company that makes this product. N! |
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I keep a bottle of armorall on the shelf so I can amuse myself as time ravages the plastic container full of the evil goo. It used to have silicone in it, but I hear thats gone now, but I still don't use it, too car lot shiny. For plastic stuff. Adams VRT Aerospace 303 Leather surfaces. Lexol Hide Food. Wheels. 409 Simple Green Dupont Teflon (only cause it was free after rebate) Paint Maguirs Deep Crystal to wash Dawn dishwashing to strip wax Rejex to protect Tires. dunno.
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Noticed this in another forum, looks worth repeating.
February 2, 2008 Machinist's Workshop V20 number 2, April/May 2007, page 35 Article: “Testing Penetrating oils” This reports a test of penetrating oils where they measured the force required to loosen rusty test devices. The details reported here were validated by the original article author. He also added some details on the methods. You must buy the issue if you want to see how they did the test. The back issue is available for purchase. The table below extracts the results table The lower the number of pounds the better. Interesting that a simple mix of acetone and power steering fluid (PSF) works the best! Penetrating oil - Average load -Price per fluid ounce None ...............516 pounds -- 0 WD-40 ..............238 pounds --$0.25 PB Blaster..........214 pounds --$0.35 Liquid Wrench ......127 pounds --$0.21 Kano Kroil .........106 pounds --$0.75 PSF-Acetone mix ....53 pounds ---$0.10 (50/50 mix) Note from original article author: 1) These are loads required to free the test piece after 8 hours of immersion in penetrating oil. This is probably not representative of a quick squirt just before a wrench is applied. 2) The original article states ATF was used in the DIY mix. It was actually PSF. |
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Cleaners: Simple Green, Denatured Alcohol, Sprayway glass cleaner
Lubricants: Liquid wrench, WD-40, Lucas synth. grease, Mobil 1 oil, Brad-Penn Racing Oil Paint Cleaners: Zymol HD cleanse, Automagic BC1 & BC2 paint cleaners Waxes: Zymol Glasur (for Porsche), Automagic Banana wax, Natty's Paste Wax (best stuff!) Paints: BASF-RM Series Semi-gloss ($17/can) Leather: Hide-food (Connolly), Armor-all leather (good stuff), Kiwi Mink oil in a can (apply in direct sunlight)
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Top of mind, In no particular order....
Engine Assembly lube Silicone Dielectric Grease SilGlide Felpro Blue CRC Electrical contact cleaner CRC BrakeKleen Pure Acetone Gain Permatex 1 & 2 Liquid wrench Liquid wrench / teflon spray 3 in 1 Oil Teflon tape White lithium grease Marine trailer bearing grease Gallon WD 40 Spray cans WD 40 Johnsons silicone spray Engine Brite spray cleaner Metal Solvent cabinet.
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Rejex polish....
-It isn't quite as good as the old Blue Coral carnauba, which was the "workout wax", and took about 2 hours to rub out and caused my arm to ache for a day. The Blue Coral was a was that was this good: I waxed my rock gray metallic '85 VW Scirocco with this stuff, then drove down Main Street in Daytona Beach. The car shined so well that it actually attracted eyes away from motorcycles. The Rejex is good, but you need to do it the next day. To use it right, you wash and wax your car in the evening, then leave it in the garage overnight. The next morning you wax it again. THAT shine is worthy of a show car, and is the same as the Blue Coral carnauba I talked about above. -It is actually an aircraft polish. It isn't a wax, something to keep in mind. If you keep your car outside, this might not be the best bet, since it might not protect the finish enough. Or then again, it just might. Contact the manufacturer! No affiliation, but here's their website: www.rejex.com N! |
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Wurth HHS 2000, This is serious wonder goop, one spray and I wanted to put some on everything in the car its suitable for, hinges, slides, linkage, suspension, etc.
Goes on "wet" and penetrates, then turns to undried snot and stays that way forever. Blurb. Wurth HHS-2000 lubricant is highly adhesive and resistant to high pressure. It penetrates into tight areas and sets into a high temperature grease. HHS 2000 is great for parts subjected to high pressures, impacts and vibrations. It provides long term action and corrosion protection. Resistant to water, brine, many acids and alkalis. Unaffected temperature range: -95 F to +392 F. 16.9 oz. |
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Thanks for that. New one that could be very useful.
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When it comes to lubricants and sealants I have a wide selection of stuff. But a couple things I like are copper coat spray for gaskets and Yama-bond. The best gasket sealant ever. It's semi-hardening ans silver in color so you don't see it next to the engine seam. I also have a complete line of solvents, reducers, hardners and paint products.
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Yes, I have some of that, and IIRC, it cost about 20.00. Worth it though.
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Permatex The Right Stuff
Kind of expensive, and comes in three colors for different temperature ranges I think. Some shops don't allow its use, some live by it. |
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