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Danglerb 10-08-2007 03:11 PM

Interesting idea for parting a car, saving 1/4 seal
 
Snoopin ebay just now I noticed this listing for a rear quarter glass seal, and I am guessing the seller may have thought of something good to try.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320168048307

Rear quarter glass doesn't seem to ever sell, but people do need a good seal because the old one usually is damaged when the quarter glass is removed for painting etc. Break the glass though and I suspect the seal comes out nicely.

Maybe a strange way of thinking, and I wouldn't buy old rubber at any price, but it has me thinking. I have brand new rubber in my rear quarter. I could break my glass, pull the almost new seal out intact, and replace it with the glass out of another car with an old seal I don't care about damaging.

rhjames 10-08-2007 07:49 PM

don't break the glass just to get the seal out----that's just not too smart.:confused:

the quarter glass and seal actually come out easier than they go back in.

if you are gentle with it, you can remove the glass and seal without damage to either.

Why damage (or break) things on purpose, considering that these parts are not $1 items, regardless of whether they "sell" or not.......?

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rhjames 10-10-2007 11:14 AM

additionally,

I have removed several quarter glass/seal assemblies and all with no damage to either......

Had you noticed Gregg's listing a little closer, those seals that he is selling are for "S" spoiler equipped cars, and probably not easily bought. I too, have a set of these, but won't sell them for pennies......

breaking the glass is just foolish, not to mention dangerous.

I have parts that may never sell as well, but does that mean I'll take them off to the crusher? No, cause one day, someone might need them. Call me a pack rat if you will, but breaking or crushing perfectly good parts isn't good for us, the 928 owners, no matter how many of these cars still exist 20 years from now.......

Danglerb 10-10-2007 11:58 AM

I have a bill every month from a storage place reminding me stuff has got to go. After a couple months most of the parts will get a couple chances on ebay and then gone.

Congrats on taking out the window with seal intact, didn't work that way for the body shop doing my car. What I am suggesting is that if it comes down to a choice, its easier for me to replace my glass than my seal. Also mine is NEW, just a few months old. Generally I won't put anything more than say 5 years old made out of rubber back on the car if I can buy new.

Genuine Porsche part from Pelican is $220 for each of the quarter window seals on an S.

Used quarter glass looks like about $25 to $50. Its also the one to break for a lockout.

I'm not saying everybody do it, just something to consider if the window isn't coming out easily.

curt_924 10-15-2007 10:26 AM

break versus pull out...
 
Have been wondering about this since need a paint job on my 79'.. have tried to take them out but found it a pain without cutting the rubber.. how did you manage to get the window out? Working the rubber around? WOuld liek to know.. thanks! :-)

funkyboogalooo 10-28-2007 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by curt_924 (Post 3532530)
Have been wondering about this since need a paint job on my 79'.. have tried to take them out but found it a pain without cutting the rubber.. how did you manage to get the window out? Working the rubber around? WOuld liek to know.. thanks! :-)

At last something I can contribute to a 928 forum as I have just done this job. Trust me if I can do it succesfully anyone can. My car is a 1985 S2 with original rubbers, this is how I did it.

1. Remove all trims etc.
2. Using to flat bladed tools (I used two big screwdrivers) start at the top front corner of the quarter glass and insert th first screwdriver. Then about two inches towards the rear of the car insert the next driver (across the top edge of the glass).
3. Keep working towards the back of the car alternating screw drivers and being patient and not forcing the glass. When you eventually get to the bottom rear corner you can simply lift the glass out.

Like I said I managed it and im useless.

So does anybody know how I get them back in now the cars painted?
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Mike

rhjames 10-28-2007 11:53 AM

thanks for the step-by-step.

it's what we need more of here, when these issues come up.

I did not have an easy time with mine, but didn't get impatient and didn't have to cut the rubbers or break the glass either.

your glass and rubbers will go back in, but it is more difficult to put in than take out. I suggest you use the same approach you used with removal, only reversed. (in fact, dish washing soap may make it easier, and it will wash away after you're done......)

I am still of the opinion that if you don't need to break something, don't. even if the replacement value (cost) is minimal.

I, too, now have a backyard and garage full of 928 parts, but.......

one day, some time soon, these (replacement) parts will cease to exist, and then where will we be.....?;)

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