|
|
|
|
| Author |
|
|
Hey! Nice Rack! "Celette"
|
Alien Autotopsy photos-head repair
Thought I'd share a couple of photos of my head repair. I stopped by my local shop today to check progress. I'm very happy with how things are going.
Here is the damage. The exhaust valve is punched through the intake seat. 
__________________
Early Alien Sightings 914-M28/11 5.0 Hybrid (The Alien Sharkster) I think I smell your blood in the water WCC 04 done by the kids Who says Aliens only abduct people. |
||
10-12-2007, 06:59 PM
|
|
|
Hey! Nice Rack! "Celette"
|
Here's the buldge and split in the port.
__________________
Early Alien Sightings 914-M28/11 5.0 Hybrid (The Alien Sharkster) I think I smell your blood in the water WCC 04 done by the kids Who says Aliens only abduct people. |
||
|
10-12-2007, 07:00 PM
|
|
|
Hey! Nice Rack! "Celette"
|
Here's the port repair, Very deep and hard to reach with the tig.
__________________
Early Alien Sightings 914-M28/11 5.0 Hybrid (The Alien Sharkster) I think I smell your blood in the water WCC 04 done by the kids Who says Aliens only abduct people. |
||
|
10-12-2007, 07:02 PM
|
|
|
Hey! Nice Rack! "Celette"
|
Here's the seat repair. It looks ver stock. There was a deep hole there before. Still a little more work to do but it's on the mend.
__________________
Early Alien Sightings 914-M28/11 5.0 Hybrid (The Alien Sharkster) I think I smell your blood in the water WCC 04 done by the kids Who says Aliens only abduct people. |
||
|
10-12-2007, 07:04 PM
|
|
|
Network Native
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SoCal
Posts: 10,349
|
Rich,
Any idea yet what caused it, Amzoil maybe? Having the head shaved a bit is proving to be a non issue?
__________________
US 83 zinc metallic 5 spd, aka the nice car. Euro 85 black, 5 spd, the fast rough track car maybe car. SOLD Euro 84 red, AT, only car in garage in years, my parts car, soon to go last 7 years. |
||
|
10-13-2007, 08:28 AM
|
|
|
Heavy Metal Relocator
|
rarely is a broken valve an oil problem......it's usually fatigue or over revving the engine beyond its components rated range.
Question: Are these US spec heads or Euro's?? If they are US spec, how much was the cost of repair versus the cost of replacement (of the head)?? I can see repairing a Euro head due to its rarity, but a US head is fairly easy to come by......
__________________
Absence of Evidence, is not Evidence of Absence. Bill Maher 8/4/09--- "I'll show you Obama's birth certificate, when you show me Sarah Palin's high school diploma." |
||
|
10-13-2007, 12:16 PM
|
|
|
|
Heavy Metal Relocator
|
wonder what the piston top and cylinder walls look like.......
__________________
Absence of Evidence, is not Evidence of Absence. Bill Maher 8/4/09--- "I'll show you Obama's birth certificate, when you show me Sarah Palin's high school diploma." |
||
|
10-13-2007, 12:17 PM
|
|
|
Network Native
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SoCal
Posts: 10,349
|
Looks like an early Euro S head to me, Amzoil part was a joke. I think Rich has picts of the rest of motor too, not sure.
__________________
US 83 zinc metallic 5 spd, aka the nice car. Euro 85 black, 5 spd, the fast rough track car maybe car. SOLD Euro 84 red, AT, only car in garage in years, my parts car, soon to go last 7 years. |
||
|
10-13-2007, 03:42 PM
|
|
|
Hey! Nice Rack! "Celette"
|
Here's the cylinder...
__________________
Early Alien Sightings 914-M28/11 5.0 Hybrid (The Alien Sharkster) I think I smell your blood in the water WCC 04 done by the kids Who says Aliens only abduct people. |
||
|
10-13-2007, 06:05 PM
|
|
|
Hey! Nice Rack! "Celette"
|
Here's the piston...
__________________
Early Alien Sightings 914-M28/11 5.0 Hybrid (The Alien Sharkster) I think I smell your blood in the water WCC 04 done by the kids Who says Aliens only abduct people. |
||
|
10-13-2007, 06:08 PM
|
|
|
Hey! Nice Rack! "Celette"
|
Yes, It's a 1980 M28/11 "S" Hence the effort to save the head.
__________________
Early Alien Sightings 914-M28/11 5.0 Hybrid (The Alien Sharkster) I think I smell your blood in the water WCC 04 done by the kids Who says Aliens only abduct people. |
||
|
10-13-2007, 06:10 PM
|
|
|
Heavy Metal Relocator
|
yep, I'd save it too, being as how it's an "11" motor.....
have you repaired the block yet, or should I ask-----is it as bad as it looks in the picture (cylinder damage)??
__________________
Absence of Evidence, is not Evidence of Absence. Bill Maher 8/4/09--- "I'll show you Obama's birth certificate, when you show me Sarah Palin's high school diploma." |
||
|
10-14-2007, 08:24 PM
|
|
|
|
Network Native
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SoCal
Posts: 10,349
|
How expensive was the head work?
Is it a long term fix, good as new kind of thing?
__________________
US 83 zinc metallic 5 spd, aka the nice car. Euro 85 black, 5 spd, the fast rough track car maybe car. SOLD Euro 84 red, AT, only car in garage in years, my parts car, soon to go last 7 years. |
||
|
10-15-2007, 12:23 AM
|
|
|
Hey! Nice Rack! "Celette"
|
Quote:
After re-newing the heads with guides and a 5 angle valve the heads should last as long as factory units.
__________________
Early Alien Sightings 914-M28/11 5.0 Hybrid (The Alien Sharkster) I think I smell your blood in the water WCC 04 done by the kids Who says Aliens only abduct people. |
||
|
10-15-2007, 04:52 AM
|
|
|
Hey! Nice Rack! "Celette"
|
Quote:
__________________
Early Alien Sightings 914-M28/11 5.0 Hybrid (The Alien Sharkster) I think I smell your blood in the water WCC 04 done by the kids Who says Aliens only abduct people. |
||
|
10-15-2007, 04:53 AM
|
|
|
Heavy Metal Relocator
|
Sorry to hear of the block damage....seems to me to be repairable by cutting out the damaged cylinder and replacing it with new liner.
Short of that.....I have a US 4.5L short block and a set of NIB tolerance group 1 pistons (Euro models---10:1 CR) that might make an inexpensive replacement, if you're interested????? Let me know if I can help------
__________________
Absence of Evidence, is not Evidence of Absence. Bill Maher 8/4/09--- "I'll show you Obama's birth certificate, when you show me Sarah Palin's high school diploma." |
||
|
10-15-2007, 02:09 PM
|
|
|
Hey! Nice Rack! "Celette"
|
Quote:
Thanks, The block I damaged was a US 4.7 28/13 with my euro "S" pistons out of my 28/11 4.7 block. I have my original 28/11 4.7 block yet so I'm putting it back into service. I have a replacement piston for the damaged one. Rick
__________________
Early Alien Sightings 914-M28/11 5.0 Hybrid (The Alien Sharkster) I think I smell your blood in the water WCC 04 done by the kids Who says Aliens only abduct people. |
||
|
10-15-2007, 07:21 PM
|
|
|
Heavy Metal Relocator
|
Glad to hear you've got a back up for your block problems!!!
Breaking the Euro head is bad enough, a Euro block would really suck..... Good luck----
__________________
Absence of Evidence, is not Evidence of Absence. Bill Maher 8/4/09--- "I'll show you Obama's birth certificate, when you show me Sarah Palin's high school diploma." |
||
|
10-16-2007, 07:53 AM
|
|
|
Network Native
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SoCal
Posts: 10,349
|
Seems that few want to buy a Euro Shortblock, as opposed to a cheap 5.0. Kibort hasn't found a buyer and is selling the shortblock cheaper than the parts to rebuild it.
__________________
US 83 zinc metallic 5 spd, aka the nice car. Euro 85 black, 5 spd, the fast rough track car maybe car. SOLD Euro 84 red, AT, only car in garage in years, my parts car, soon to go last 7 years. |
||
|
10-16-2007, 10:10 AM
|
|
|
Heavy Metal Relocator
|
why buy a 4.5 or 4.7 when you can get a 5.0 for the same or less?
the answer should be obvious----then again, if you're doing a restoration, the same size is the one to be had...... Anybody need a 4.5L??? I have a Euro 4.5L (out of my 80 Euro) and US 4.5L (in pieces), and NIB set of Euro 4.5L tolerance group 1 pistons too.... 
__________________
Absence of Evidence, is not Evidence of Absence. Bill Maher 8/4/09--- "I'll show you Obama's birth certificate, when you show me Sarah Palin's high school diploma." |
||
|
10-16-2007, 06:35 PM
|
|
