928 Chevy conversion on ebay

diverdan · diverdan's Garage

Chevy conversion is posted on ebay under kit cars. Buy now price is under $10k. Located in Missouri. Just thought I'd alert a conversion dreamer who might want to check it out.

Diverdan

Danglerb · 12-12-2007, 12:08 AM

That one has been through ebay before I think.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140188789481

Fabio421 · 12-12-2007, 05:10 AM

That is one of the best looking conversions I have seen. Usually they are half finished.

Why do all of these conversions use a carburated engine? WTF? If your gonna go through all of that trouble, why not spend a little more $$ and do it right.

Danglerb · 12-12-2007, 10:19 AM

They use a carb because making the EFI work takes twice as long if not more. The general rule is one maybe two weekends and you have the Porsche motor out and the Chevy motor in and bolted up running. Six months to a year later its running well and all the electrical stuff works.

BTW how it "looks" is no indication on how finished it is. Driveable vs reasonable to drive.

rich · rich's Garage

Nuther guy that spent 15,000.00 to make a 5,000.00 car. All those molded seams are going to crack, won't that look nice.

rhjames · rhjames's Garage

this isn't even a good 50 foot car........

look at the quarter window trim (upper left front corner is the worst, rear corners are almost as bad)---OK, so it's been fixed after the pics.....wonder if he put the trim back in the rubbers....?

the main upper radiator hose is how long????, the rest of them are hap-hazzardly placed.

engine block/head/h2o pump color (lime green) is totally out of place.

the early steering wheel is.... well....out dated with the look of the rest of the car.

the blending of the bumper covers/fenders is a nice idea, but probably won't hold up after five minutes of track trashing......

the hood scoop is so-so......

the tailights would "look" better if they were covered in smoked pexiglass.

the front turn signals should be changed to clear ones.

side marker lights deleted, no rub strip, no sunroof, no rear bumperettes.

needs really huge tires/wheels......

--Russ

Rixter · 12-14-2007, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Danglerb

They use a carb because making the EFI work takes twice as long if not more. The general rule is one maybe two weekends and you have the Porsche motor out and the Chevy motor in and bolted up running. Six months to a year later its running well and all the electrical stuff works.

BTW how it "looks" is no indication on how finished it is. Driveable vs reasonable to drive.

not true on many points
my buddy just did his 3rd conversion for someone, it's running EFI no problem, took about 5-6 hours to rewire... total job took 3 weekends and the car is a beast.. been about 5-6 months and no problems reported

Fabio421 · 12-14-2007, 05:28 AM

The 350 shoe horned into the 944 sounds like alot more fun to me.

bjenkins · 12-14-2007, 10:23 AM

I rode in one(350 944) when we visited Taj Magaraj last time. It was a scary beast!

Danglerb · 12-14-2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rixter

not true on many points
my buddy just did his 3rd conversion for someone, it's running EFI no problem, took about 5-6 hours to rewire... total job took 3 weekends and the car is a beast.. been about 5-6 months and no problems reported

I could see that happening if someone had expert knowledge of both Chevy and 928 mechanical and electrical systems, had all the parts laid out in advance, and absolutely nothing went wrong from either the conversion or the old 928. That isn't a typical situation even in a shop that does a lot of conversions.

See if you can talk your buddy into posting some of his secrets over on the Porsche Hybrids forum, http://www.porschehybrids.com/index.php

948 is a beast, but talking to many of the guys who like to drive more than drag, they wish they had started with a 928 instead.

rhjames · rhjames's Garage

why all the fuss about a low dollar Chebbie, when you can fit a big block in one.

with aluminum blocks and heads these days, the domestic engines are bigger power producers (for the money) and the parts are easier to get.

I have repeatedly spoken about INDY cylinder heads' big block Mopar's (665 cubic inches) that puts out 800 HP + on pump gas, weighs less than a stock 32V 928 engine, and will fit in the 928 engine bay. Cost? $20K, plus the conversion fabrication. About the same money you would spend on a 928 stroker (not as much hp), twin turbo w/engine build (not as much HP), or sc w/ engine build (again, not as much HP).

you could do the same for BBC, or BB Ford (820 cubes available from Sonny Leonard), but you run into clearance issues in the engine bay......

it's no big deal if you have the bucks to do either of these builds, just your preference of powerplant.

Point is, if you're going to do a conversion, why put a stock small-time small block in when you can put something worthwhile in it?

---Russ

Danglerb · 12-15-2007, 12:16 AM

One of the common subjects in the performance forums is how much HP is enough? These days an average working Joe can afford HP that was almost unheard of 25 years ago, so plenty of opinions are around from guys who drive anything from 200 rwhp to around 800 rwhp as a street car. Power to weight ratio seems the best way to compare different cars.

1:15 makes for a generally frisky, not too dangerous car. Stock old Mustand, Stock old 928 etc.

1:10 is a fast car, generally as fast as any normal production car, spinning tires in 1st and 2nd off the throttle.

1:8 spanks most normal cars, hits 100 mph as fast as many get to 60, traction a full time issue.

1:6 A beast, race car fast.

1:4 more than most drivers or highway situations will allow.

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There was of course no consensus on best p/w, but the average was between 1:6 and 1:8, for ideal power in a street car. You can hit that range pretty easy with 383 (stroked 350) in a 928 and its easiest, cheapest motor to swap, most swap parts and support etc.

I think a major portion of what makes a sports car a sports car is lost when there are no practical situations where it would ever be a good idea to have the steering wheel turned even slightly under full power.

Brian Felts · 12-15-2007, 01:58 AM

If I was going to do it I would use a LS1 with direct ignition it would be an easy setup. What I do not understand is the money this fellow wants for the car but look at the list of "does not works" its quite a list of needed features but then they act like its a show car??? I can't beieve its quality work

How do you get "Mechanically perfect except week sincros in trany, speedo and tach do not work" that does not seem too perfect to me?

Brian

Red Baron · 12-15-2007, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Fabio421

That is one of the best looking conversions I have seen. Usually they are half finished.

Why do all of these conversions use a carburated engine? WTF? If your gonna go through all of that trouble, why not spend a little more $$ and do it right.

Do you really think so? Looks pretty "hacked" imo.

Danglerb · 12-15-2007, 01:42 PM

Many car owners are blind to the defects in their babies, many also spread the baloney liberally in ads. I always think back to an ad I called up on for a "Cherry" condition car, seller told me on the phone yes it really was cherry condition, except for the door a car hit.

Concourse restoration, means waxed by a guy who learned the trade in prison.