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1993 Porsche 928 GTS U.S. car # 1 for sale!
Not often does an opportunity present itself such as this. There are two specific U.S. 928 GTS's of extremely high significant and longterm value. The first and most valuable is of course the very last GTS which is no longer on American soil, and the other is naturally the very first GTS, which still is!
 The very first GTS to hit U.S. soil was in early 1992. It was PCNA's official 928 GTS press car that was used in early 1992 to promote the reintroduction of the 928 to the United States after a one year hiatis in 1992. This absolutely stunning and highly demandable GTS was used by PCNA for every photo shoot, newspaper and magazine article, special event and demonstration and thus created a media frenzy to pre-warn the American public that the 928 was coming back with a vengeance for '93, but was a bigger, badder and much more boldly 928 than it ever was before! In fact, this is the exact car used for the "manufacturers file photo" for all '93 928's advertised on cars.com, who's sellers have chosen not to add their own pictures to the ad. But what makes this very special GTS even that much more significant, is the fact that after it had made it's final run on the PCNA press car circuit, it was eventually sold as a '93 GTS. But that's where the true beauty and rarity of this special GTS come into play. This GTS is actually a 1992 GTS and was even sold to the actual first owner in southern California in early May of 1992, therefore even being sold as a '92 GTS. And due to it's early entry into the U.S. to be used as the official press car, that makes this the only official 1992 U.S. Porsche 928 GTS on American soil. Sure, some early '93 GTS's were actually '92 model year rollovers, but not a single one other than GTS press car #1 were actually built, sold, and legally U.S. registered besides this very special 928 GTS #1 press car. That's right, not a single one! And that makes GTS # 1 the second most significant GTS ever produced. Now some lucky and highly pre-qualified individual is going to have the opportunity to own this genuinely rare and gorgeous 1992 U.S. Porsche 928 GTS at a fraction of it's original MSRP and considerably short of it's estimated and most certain future collectable value. GTS # 1 is finished in an even more rare and absolutely stunning Horizon Blue metalic with a very well complimenting light gray and classic gray combination interior. This car if fully documented since new and has recently undergone a full 45,000 mile service of timing belt/water pump and all other associated items. The car has spent most of it's life in southern California and has never been abused, had paint or bodywork of anykind, and has thus been pampered by the most descriminating of owners. This is a 100% original car with absolutely no aftermarket anythings (thank God!). This of course includes all of it's original tools, spare tire, spare tire compressor, changing mat, gloves, extra accessory belts, cargo cover, cargo net, original CR-1 stereo with factory CD changer, both the owners and maintenance manuals in their respective black leather binder with all associated supplements, jack, lug wrench, both original belly pans, wheel locks, and so on. Plain and simple, the lucky new owner of this very special GTS will not be disappointed at any level of their purchase. This will genuinely be an enjoyable and rare opportunity to own and drive an assuredly highly collectable 928, and at a fraction of it's guaranteed future value. All qualified candidates are urged to apply for the opportunity to own this extremely rare and extremely special GTS by contacting Todd Johnson at 317-506-3022 anytime. The anonymity of all interested parties will be kept strictly confidential. Any and all smart and savy auto collectors from anywhere around the world are welcomed and encouraged to apply as well. Attached are some pictures of this rare and flawless 928 GTS car #1. Enjoy the photos and please contact me if your interested at 317-506-3022. I look very forward to speaking with any and all interested parties.         More pictures to follow....... Todd
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more pics still......
    That's it! All interested parties both here and abroad are urged to contact me asap. Mileage, price and all other specifics of this rare and beautiful GTS will be discussed in person to all seriously interested individuals. Thanks for looking! Todd...specializing in only the rarest and most sought after 928's for over 10 years!
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Hey Todd,
There have been 2 '92's on the U.S. soil, one was been returned to it's roots last year. The other one is here in Texas.
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Yes, I was aware of those two cars, but if I'm not mistaken, wasn't one of them imported into the U.S. with EPA/DOT releases as an original euro car, and the other simply a euro car on a temporary permit? This GTS of mine, U.S. GTS # 1 is the only actual original U.S. spec '92 GTS in America. Correct me if I'm wrong though. No EPA/DOT releases on this beauty. It's a U.S. car from the get go...... Todd
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I think you are correct on that. Good luck with the sale.
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 At the event, you will not only get your chance to meet Low Miler in person, but in addition, receive books and CD's telling you just how to become rich, doing your favorite hobby, in your spare time. I'll even autograph a copy for you to take home and have some tickets waiting at will call for both you and a guest! That's a $299 value! See you there! Todd
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I just came across this post on another forum regarding my U.S. spec '92 GTS for sale, though it was still sold as a '93 model year car, it's actually a true '92 GTS. Here's the quote:
"Sterling, Not arguing with the guy at all. All you have to do is read the VIN! CLEARLY the car is registered at a '93, NOT a '92 no matter HOW you slice it. It was not even a Euro '92 brought in and registered as a '93 (note the lack of headlight adjustment and the lack of a rear fog light button)... You are probably right...I'll just go set up an acct and give him $hit directly. I live for that anyway! LOL! Be cool! Got this Sunday off from playing music so I can post here in the AM! YEA! J" Apparentely, this person is confused by the fact that he must have payed an outrageous amount of money to import a '92 GTS into the U.S. from Europe with the hopes he'd be the only one in the country with a '92 GTS. But then comes along little old Low Miler with not only the very first U.S. spec '92 GTS to hit U.S. soil, but without any outrageous EPA/DOT releases to go with it. Honestly, I could see how that would make someone who spent $15-$20K in importation fees a lil' angry. But coming over to just to give me %*#* about it, isn't a way to accomplish anything, now is it? To this person, I'm really sorry that you had to pay so much money for importing your '92 GTS into our country, but you chose to do that at your own expense. I think one should first examine the evidence that the car was actually sold during the '92 model year, even before the '93 model year started. They should also refer to the 928 Registry and scroll down to the very first '93 GTS to be listed and that's where they'll find, da, da, my GTS # 1! This car was only sold as a '93 because there were to be no '92 GTS's sold in the U.S., period.The first documentation of this press car was in January of '92 when it appeared in our local newspaper as the headline for the reintroduction of the '93 GTS, scheduled for later that year. It was already on U.S. soil at the time and was being used by PCNA as their official press car, no doubt about it. This person is talking about a lack of euro items on the car. Well, there aren't any euro items on this car because it wasn't a euro car to begin with. That's what makes it even that much more special. Much more special than any EPA/DOT released euro spec '92 GTS. A U.S. spec '92 GTS, already on parade in the U.S. in early '92 and officially sold to the general public during the '92 model year. Can it get any more clear than that? I don't think so. Erkka from that other site is supposedly the "numbers guy" on these cars, so let him tell the tale of the VIN #'s if he would. If indeed Porsche did make a '93 GTS in late '91, then I stand corrected, but I really doubt it. If I am, then I'll quickly stand corrected and make the necessary corrections immediately. But as of now, the facts will speak for themselves. With the courtesy of the 928 Registry to help prove my point, I submit the '93 GTS listing entries showing this GTS to be the only # 1 GTS in the country. But for now, you let the sale date, the VIN #, and it's actual period of time on our soil do the talking. This is one seriously collectable 928! http://www.928registry.org/1993-928GTS-early-listing-page.htm Todd P.S. Boy, there's alot of nasty comments in that thread triggered towards me. The OP basically calls my cars "slimmy". I truly challenge her to find one of my slimmy 928's with nothing more than heresay.
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Isn't this a technical forum?
 Technically speaking, PET backs up your sales pitch. 928 GTS.........................92 N 92NS8 00061>05000 M28.49/50 257 KW 928 GTS (USA) (CDN).......92 N 92PS8 15061>19999 M28.49/50 257 KW 928 GTS.........................93 P 92PS8 00061>05000 M28.49/50 257 KW 928 GTS (USA) (CDN)........93 P 92PS8 20061>25000 M28.49/50 257 KW
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James is not angry Todd, he's the most laid back guy I've ever met. Funny as hell too. Don't get the panties in a bunch.
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Todd, I don't care if you think you have the only US registered 1992 928 GTS or not... But selling it as such is a disservice to the entire 928 community. The year that a car is made and the "year of the model of the car" are not always the same thing. In fact maybe not often the same thing. Living to give someone a hard time was just my way of showing Sterling the love dude, you are clearly upset that you have been called on the carpet for an ad you can't support. Here is what I posted on another forum...take it or leave it. Matters not to me. Oh, I paid plenty to import the '92 but it was at the time less than the value of a current '93 model plus you just can't put a price on driving your own 928 GTS on the autobahn at speed!!! Good luck selling the '93. I'll give you fair market for it as I need a '93 to add to the stable... $36k right now... Post #1: If the car is not registered with a VIN that shows an "N" as the 10th digit then it is BY DEFINITION NOT a 1992 car...ALSO since only Euro cars were produced as 1992 cars any '92 GTS will have "ZZZ" as the 4th through 6th digits in the VIN. You are incorrect in this car being a 1992 model and you are also incorrect in there being no legally registered 1992 GTS's in the USA. My 1992 GTS is FULLY registered (at VERY GREAT cost and time) here in the states and has the following VIN (I am putting "X"'s in the last four digits on purpose): WPOZZZ92ZNS80XXXX SO, now you know the REAL truth about 1992 928's. Oh, there was at least one other '92 GTS here in the states on a temporary permit with a member of the German air force who was here on assignment for a few years. He is back in Germany with his '92 GTS now. I don't doubt that this was the first US GTS, but I doubt that it was registered as anything other than a '93. You calling this a '92 is like calling the new ZR1 Vette that was sold at the Barrett Jackson auction an '07 ZR1's. I recall seeing it called '09 ZR1. Also by your reckoning a cars model year would only be dependent on when the car was built...that would sure make it easier, but then what would car companies do for their marketing? Post #2: Well, I am looking at my Porsche "Technical Specifications" booklet and it is pretty clear in the magic VIN decoder section that if the car were registered as a 1992 model then the 10th digit would be an "N", if on the other hand (as it is on the car in question) that letter is a "P" then it is a 1993 car as far as Porsche is concerned. SO, regardless of when the car was built OR registered it was/is registered as a 1993 model. Obviously since it (like my '94) was built in the year PRIOR to its model year then the build sheet will in fact state the current year the car is being built in...of course maybe they time traveled for all this. By your reasoning there rixter my '94 GTS would in fact be a '93 because it was built in May of '93 and registered in Oct of '93... I don't care what some website says, as you and everyone else here know you can say ANYTHING on the web, but that does not make it true. If you don't like the fact that the car in question IS a 1993 model year 928 GTS then I suggest you take up the fight with PCNA and/or PCAG! Maybe you can set those guys straight since clearly they don't know what they are doing... Todd, I don't get wrapped up in stuff like this. I went to Germany and bought a 1992 GTS because I wanted a 1992 GTS, I don't care if anyone else has one or not, but importing a car in '92 that is clearly marked as a '93 does not make it a '92. If that were the case then my '92 would actually be the ONLY 2001 GTS! Your last post there Todd makes me smile and tells me you are just as irreverent as I am! LOL! LOVE IT! James http://home.austin.rr.com/jemorrison2 |
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I am trying to figure out what a PET is??? I am looking at the Porsche "Technical Specifications" book again and on page 8 is the "Survey of type designations" and it lists each of the year models from 1990 though 1993 (I need another book to cover the '94's and '95's I guess) and for each year it lists the Model year and the next column over is "vehicle type designation A=automatic) and then on that line it will say something like this, "928 GTS Europe, RoW" then after that is all the engine info. For the years where there are US cars there will be another line present that says, "928 GTS USA, Canada"... For the 1992 model year there are only the two lines present one with the A to designate automatic and the other line with out the A, but both lines say, "928 GTS Europe, RoW" Since this IS a technical forum I just thought you might be interested in the technical specs according to the Porsche bible... James
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Now I feel like #@%*. And yes, I'm just as irreverent as you are. I think I'm still a lil' sour after a few (more like 100+ actually), run in's with some of my former Renn buddies, that I've still got my hands on the intimidation and accusations trigger. $37.5K and it's yours, and with more pics if your interested. Formerly owned by a 60+ year old. Let me know if your genuinely interested at 317-506-3022. In the meantime, I'll look forward to talking with you.......Todd
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Just looked back at this again before I disappear and I don't deny or dispute your claim that this is the first '93 GTS in the USA! Not at all, it may well be the first. My argument is that it is NOT, never has been, and never will BE a 1992 GTS...that is all. Not sure who you are talking about as the "OP" but I never called any of your cars "slimmy"... I don't know you or any other cars that you have sold...maybe it was not directed at me. As for your first '93 GTS to be in the USA being "Seriously collectible", well, it is a nice car and it is worth the same amount to any reasonable human as any other well kept 45k mile '93 GTS... There are plenty of folks with more money than sense (I probably qualify for that one sometimes myself) so maybe you will get serious collectible money for it but I think that if you get more than $45k for it you got ALL THE MONEY AND THEN SOME! I predict you won't even get an offer above $43k...to me that would be the OUTSIDE for a mid-mileage 1993 GTS... YMMV! Good luck with the sale! James
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Be cool man LOVE the Horizon blue! Great color! Remember that '94 (or maybe it was a '93) from about 11 years ago that had 6000 miles on it! I was SOOOOO close to buying that car I can't even tell you! Sold just before I was willing to get up to their level on pricing! I think it went for $50k or something like that...DANG IT!!! Missed again! Best to you! James Edit: I was going to put a pic of my '92 up here, but I don't see any option for me to do that...go to this link: http://jamesandbeth.shutterfly.com password is jamesandbeth Click on the second album and the 13th picture is my Polar silver GTS burning up the Hallett race track in OK! FUN TIME! Have a bunch of other cool pics but have not put them in an album yet... Enjoy guys! Last edited by pcar928fan; 05-18-2008 at 01:59 PM.. |
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Dude, I've already seen it........and many times! It's on the 928 Registry under "euro GTS's in the US". Great looking car too! I'll check out your link because he had no pictures of the interior posted. I always wondered if it was a typical full leather euro GTS, as is the '95 blue/red euro on the same site. P.S. My '92/'93 GTS (how's that for a compromise?) actually has 90K on it and not 45K. I should have stated that in the ad and will. I think my wording of the 45K service interval being completed is what threw you off. Probably worth more of the $37.5K now, eh? Either way, it was a pleasure and if I ever get down your way while picking up another concours 928, I'd hope to have a lil' lunch with you and chit chat 928's! You down? Todd P.S. The "OP" stands for the original poster of that thread, a Cheryl Carter. As was my problem over there, another person who's never met me, seen one of my cars, bought one of my cars, or knows anyone who has bought one of my cars, stating something as to their knowledge of them without any evidence. By the way, they're always in concours condition. (refer to Ebay username *928gts* for verification of that fact).....asterisks included. Take care.....
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Todd have you been able to locate anything "really" neat, like the press kit featuring this car?
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