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Danglerb 05-11-2009 03:13 PM

Cheap A/F gauges and stock O2?
 
I found this Air Fuel ratio gauge on Amazon for $22 (ships free at $25), so I added some filler and bought one. Anybody using one of these cheap gauges with a stock O2 sensor?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FJQWS0

MPDano 05-11-2009 04:47 PM

Mike,

Weren't you of the ones telling me that a narrow band O2 reading ain't worth s%$t? Anyways, did a bunch of research on this and came to conclusion that I really need a Wide Band O2 Sensor and a Wide Band A/F Gauge. You can find them for around $200 as a set.

devilinblack 05-11-2009 04:54 PM

Yeah, I thought Mike was beating that drum with me. At that price point I wouldn't expect much.

Danglerb 05-11-2009 05:00 PM

Leo doesn't run closed loop with his O2 sensor, which I think is key to one of these working.

BTW I have a wide band O2 sensor, but saving it to use when I borrow a wide band meter.

MPDano 05-11-2009 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danglerb (Post 4658214)
Leo doesn't run closed loop with his O2 sensor, which I think is key to one of these working.

BTW I have a wide band O2 sensor, but saving it to use when I borrow a wide band meter.

You can't just hook it up to the meter with the O2 only plugged into the Meter?

Danglerb 05-11-2009 07:12 PM

I'm not sure, but my conjecture is without closed loop control its going to show rich or lean, without a good indication of how much.

I don't plan to mount this one in my car, just hook it up for some amusement and then it can go into a different car. We can give it a try in Leo's car and see what it does.

*** If your question is about using a wideband sensor with a narrow band meter? The output of the wideband slowly changes voltage from lean to rich, and the narrow band doesn't change voltage much until a "trigger" point at stoichiometric where it changes abruptly. Unless a meter is calibrated for the sensor curves the voltage won't mean much.

MPDano 05-11-2009 07:21 PM

Test away. The O2 wire terminates to the Center Console to nothing. Go for it!

MPDano 05-11-2009 07:51 PM

This is the one I was talking about getting when the funds exist.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AEM-GAUGE-TYPE-6-IN-1-WIDEBAND-UEGO-CONTROLLER-30-4100_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1240Q7c66Q3a 1Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1308Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q 3a1Q7c294Q3a25QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZite m4143893bccQQitemZ280305941452QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5f TruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

http://i4.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/f6/3c/ae6f_1_sbl.JPG

Imo000 05-11-2009 08:01 PM

Unless you are running boost, why would you want one?

Danglerb 05-11-2009 09:02 PM

On my my 85 Euro I intend to sharktune it, and I don't think the Sharktuner on the LH2.2 can pick up A/F directly. For the other cars, just curious, maybe try some tuning with the more limited controls.

MPDano 05-12-2009 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imo000 (Post 4658552)
Unless you are running boost, why would you want one?

CIS, not computer controlled. I would like to get my A/F spot on. Plus I got two holes I need to fill on both sides of my clock in the Center Console ;) The other I was thinking of an Oil Temp Gauge.

Danglerb 05-12-2009 11:37 AM

Oil temp is fun, literally hotter the oil the more fun you are usually having.

DMRK 05-14-2009 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPDano (Post 4658898)
CIS, not computer controlled. I would like to get my A/F spot on. Plus I got two holes I need to fill on both sides of my clock in the Center Console ;) The other I was thinking of an Oil Temp Gauge.

You could fill the other hole with a pyrometer. EGT goes well together with A/F to tell you what is going on.


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