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Kyle C
 
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Engine Vacuum Test

I did a vacuum test on my engine using the vacuum port on the very front of the intake distributor (elbow for AC idle increase) and got a very erratic reading which bounces between ~19-15 inches mercury. Did I test at too large a vacuum port, or does it not matter? If not, does this indicate bad valves?

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Try it at different spots looking for the same erratic readings. If consistently erratic, you may have a leak.
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depending on the location it could be too close to the intake ports or a burned intake valve (also depending on the speed of the vibrations) I recommend a compression test.
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I will check some other ports to see what I find.
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a compression tester is about $10 from harbor freight, cant go wrong there.
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I will take vacuum readings at the front fuel pressure damper (with t connector) and vacuum advance (with t connector + revving up a bit) and compare. I should be able to do a compression test at school within the next week.
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Further vacuum testing gave the following results:

- Intake distributor front port (large diameter vacuum hose): rapid fluctuation between 19" and 17",
sometimes down to 16"

- Fuel pressure damper (front center of engine): steady 18" (small fluctuation, less that .25"
either direction)

These readings were taken at idle. Interesting thing is that after revving the engine to 1500 RPM about 5 times, the reading at the intake distributor then held 18" at idle with a rapid fluctuation of no more than .5" either direction. How would small throttle blips then returning to idle change engine vacuum???
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This is a very interesting approach to troubleshooting. What's inspiring this anyway? I can't remember. IPhone surfing is troublesome sometimes.
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I am doing these tests now because 3 months ago before I replaced injector seals, intake gaskets, etc, I had several drivability issues (cold and hot start). I did a vacuum test then, and it was very erratic, I don't remember exactly but I think the readings may have been worse. So i retested after I did some work on the engine to see if anything changed (besides the cold/hot start issue which is now gone - injector seals were toast). Either way, my end goal is to evaluate the condition of the parts of the engine I did not work on (bottom end and heads) as I have virtually no service history on the vehicle.

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