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Fredfox 04-02-2011 09:06 AM

Anyone build their own X pipe?
 
Doing extensive work,
New Steering rack,
Brakes and master cyl, fluid changeout,
AC Compressor,
Paint touch up and polish,
Motor mounts, hopefully no more hot air in the console,
RMB and removing cats, now registered historic, This is why I want to custom build an X pipe, I have all the equipment to do it.

Are the pipes open to each other on an X pipe? It looks like they are from all the pictures and I don't see why not.
I am looking for that nice muscle car sound, I plan on running just the resonators.

Mrmerlin 04-02-2011 12:54 PM

if you want an X pipe they are sold by Motorsport in UTAH they make em.
Roger also sells them.
NOTE making one will in most cases not result in the max power that can be gotten from your engine

Danglerb 04-03-2011 02:04 AM

Many hot rod places source just an X in various pipe sizes, but don't expect it to sound or work as well as one designed for a 928.

Fredfox 04-03-2011 02:56 AM

I will take pictures when I am done, If they can build it I can build it.

fb111 04-03-2011 05:08 AM

They weren't just built. Placement, tube size, merged area and dyno time all went into determining design and increased performance.

Mrmerlin 04-03-2011 07:23 AM

Ahh Fred I will tell you again,
if you want an X pipe then buy one from Motorsport in Utah,

I worked there when these pipes were being developed and then finally MFG`d.
it took many months of cutting and fitting and trips to the dyno to finally come up with the pipe assembly that made the most power.
I can garuantee you they anything you make isnt going to come close to the X unless you copy it

EIPtuningR32 04-03-2011 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredfox (Post 5940631)
I will take pictures when I am done, If they can build it I can build it.

i like this guys mentality.SmileWavy

Normy 04-03-2011 04:22 PM

So how does this work? Enlighten me-

If you simply make the two exhaust pipes from your headers mounted to your EVEN FIRING V8 ENGINE collide with each other, then your engine will some how make 30 more horsepower? For some reason, I don't think it works that way. I suspect these tubes need to be built to a very specific shape. The volume of the pipe at each section is probably a factor, the size of the "hole", the distance of the hole from the exhaust port, the sizes of the pipe and the angle of the bend after the X are all probably factors.

-Have you seen those "tuned pipes" that they use on dirt bikes? Right after the exhaust, the pipe gets very wide; this is what is known as a resonance chamber. The burning gas comes out of the port under pressure, expands into the wide part of the chamber...and then bounces back. After the port closes, a reflected "wave" hits the closed exhaust port, then bounces off. This bouncing off causes a low pressure area, which happens to occur when the exhaust port is opening again. This tends to suck the exhaust out of the dirt bike engine. This fat pipe is VERY CAREFULLY designed! A tiny change of size or volume changes the perfect RPM or even negates this effect. This same thing works on the intake valve: Variable intakes take advantage and actually modify this "wave" effect to slightly supercharge naturally aspirated engines.

What all that means is that NO, you can't just bend two pipes together and expect it to work as well as a Louis Ott X-pipe! There are several pipes available now [I have the Ott], all fit in place of the cats and ALL work well, but ALL were products of LOTS of research and dyno time.

N!

Danglerb 04-03-2011 10:41 PM

Nice basic article, Header - Exhaust Manifold - Tech - Jack Burns - Popular Hot Rodding

MattGram 04-04-2011 02:30 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1301956006.jpg
2.5" stainless steel custom mandrel bent elbows and tubes from Mandrel Exhaust Systems, X pipe from Summit, sst ball and socket connectors from Jegs, flanges from Burn's Stainless:cool:

Fredfox 04-04-2011 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattGram (Post 5943384)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1301956006.jpg
2.5" stainless steel custom mandrel bent elbows and tubes from Mandrel Exhaust Systems, X pipe from Summit, sst ball and socket connectors from Jegs, flanges from Burn's Stainless:cool:

wheres the cats?

JK.
I am putting this project on hold as work has demanded a road trip.

Fredfox 04-04-2011 02:40 PM

Oh yea,
Checked locknut on flex plate shaft, has not gained or backed off, didn't move when loosened up.

MattGram 04-04-2011 02:46 PM

The cats...the P.O. removed them and installed an H pipe. He gave me the old cats as well, so I have all the exhaust factory pieces. This took me a while to do considering I had to line everything up, mark it, cut, tack, test fit, adjust, test fit, weld, then on to the next piece. If you decide to do this, take your time and try not to rush it, expect to be frustrated! I'm a welder by trade so that was the easiest part.

Fredfox 04-04-2011 03:11 PM

Need a job? Good welders are hard to find. I manage a large welding fabrication shop just outside Atlantic City.

MattGram 04-05-2011 12:20 PM

Thanks...you never know...:)

toofast928 04-09-2011 05:37 AM

I have one of Roger's X Pipes for sale. For the 16v has the extension welded on the right side.
$200.00 PM me-
Tony

riber.bentsen 04-09-2011 02:39 PM

Hey Tony, I'll take that!

Shipping might be an issue, but surely it could be done. With UPS or FedEx?

What is your location?

toofast928 04-09-2011 07:21 PM

Im in New Jersey, USA

Pete R 04-09-2011 07:55 PM

Am I the only one scared of Tony from Jersey?http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/ar15.gif

;)

toofast928 04-09-2011 08:12 PM

Yes be very scared :cool:


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