euro or not

[tychain99]

have a 1980 928, how can I tell if it is euro or not, I was reading about the vin check, but mine does not have the 17 digit vin...

[neil30076]

look at the front of the engine block for the 'M' number , and then check below:

[Danglerb]

What happens when you step on the gas is a bit of a hint as well, especially the top end.

[MPDano]

Originally Posted by tychain99

have a 1980 928, how can I tell if it is euro or not, I was reading about the vin check, but mine does not have the 17 digit vin...

How about some pictures? Especially the side and rear. Like Neil said, the engine numbers will tell you also.

[tychain99]

pics to come, when i step on the gas it is not very darty off the line. it cruises good at 55, and takes off pretty quick i think it is fastest from 60-90 mph , so off the line is sluggish, top end is pretty quick.

[Danglerb]

When a Euro S hits about 3500 rpm you should have a big smile that doesn't droop til redline. With a non S it still pulls, but you feel a bit of drop starting just over 5k rpm.

Off the line all are pretty much the same.

VIN, motor ID, head and intake casting numbers are what I check.

[Pete R]

Aren't the front side markers in different locations?

[MPDano]

Originally Posted by Pete R

Aren't the front side markers in different locations?

Yup, and this is why I told him to post pics of the side and rear of the car. Euro has the front side markers behind the wheel when the US has them in front of the wheel. Also rear bumper has a Red Fog Lamp with no Bumperettes, when the US doesn't have a Fog Lamp but has the Black Rubber Bumperettes.

[tychain99]

I def have the rubber bumperettes in back, is that case closed? or should i still look at the motor numbers

[Pete R]

Motor numbers, I've never seen a car with out the rear bumpers(I'm not saying Dano wrong about that), they may have to have been added to meet us specs if a euro was brought over. You can solve it with a 10 second look in the engine bay. Even if the body is a Euro anything could be in there by now 30 years later.

[MPDano]

Post Motor Number. Don't you have a digital camera or one on your cell phone?

[MPDano]

Originally Posted by Pete R

Motor numbers, I've never seen a car with out the rear bumpers(I'm not saying Dano wrong about that), they may have to have been added to meet us specs if a euro was brought over. You can solve it with a 10 second look in the engine bay. Even if the body is a Euro anything could be in there by now 30 years later.

My Euro Bumper. Yes, some that were Federalized may have Bumperettes.

When I first brought her home



After her paint job

[Pete R]

cool, now I've seen it. (I just thought you hadn't put them on yet after paint)

[neil30076]

My daughters euro, without bumpers...

[riber.bentsen]

And finally, a Europeans Euro

[lfausty]

this 78 euro does have red light and bumperettes, all german writing/gauges. vins 10? numbers didnt make 17 digits til couple yrs from 77/78. *he has garage pic, usa,yes? ** pic of eng bay for cis or finj, motor no? auto is there a 3sp and 4sp trans? cloth int/leather? bought running good and your riding? nice body color the beige

[MPDano]

Originally Posted by riber.bentsen

And finally, a Europeans Euro

Ha Ha! A Euros Euro

FYI, that Decal looks Badass!