Waffling between 911 and 928

[glmoore001]

I am looking to buy a Porsche and I am waffling between a 911 and a 928. If I buy a 928, it will be my second, I have never owned a 911.

I really loved my 80 928 even with its quirks. I finally got a ticketed at 120 mph in a 55 and sold the car.

I am a decent mechanic always do my own work on my vehicles so no problem wrenching on the 928.

I feel the 911 will be a more reliable car but part of the purpose is to buy a car to wrench on. I know my resale will be better on the 911 should I ever have the need to sell it.

I like the luxury aspect of the 928 and that v8 power and sound. There is just something about that car that is special.

I have never even driven a 911, but i cannot imagine not loving it.

I am looking at 78-88 911's and 87 - 89 S4's.

I can afford the parts on either car although I will be financing some of the purchase.

Looking for an opinion of someone who owns both to help me tip the scales here.

thanks...gary

[Pete R]

Drive a 911 first, really fast, and try not to go off the road backwards

[aluminum]

I own Both > 1990 911 C4 and a 1980 928 they are completely different Car's
Both are electrical Nightmares
That being said the (928 is a Touring Car with a smooth Ride
The 911 is a Sports car with a Rough Ride
( unless you go into the 1999 and up 911's some water cooled junk )
Just Depends what your looking for ? A Sports Car or a Touring car ?

[MarkRobinson]

I have all (928's, 944 turbo, 911 turbo), have had NA 944/911's: All are wonderful for different reasons: Best to go drive both a 911SC ('78-83) & a 3.2 Carrera ('84-early '89). You can also get a great '89-91 C2 964 in the high teens now: infinitely better car than either the 911sc or the essential 3.2 Carrera.

911sc: 180-190hp
3.2 Carrear: 207-217, but tuned ones make 220-230rwhp
3.6 964 make 245-250rwhp, a nice quick car, great gearbox, AC, Brembo's, Air bags, ABS, etc.

Targa's are more plentiful in the "sales" market because they're not as valuable: stick with a hard roof for best future resale. Convert. tops are probably $ (assumption).

Mark.

[Danglerb]

Originally Posted by glmoore001

I have never even driven a 911, but i cannot imagine not loving it.

I am looking at 78-88 911's and 87 - 89 S4's.

I can afford the parts on either car although I will be financing some of the purchase.

Looking for an opinion of someone who owns both to help me tip the scales here.

thanks...gary

Financing a car so so sucks, and you may have noticed you would be paying a LOT more for a 911 in nice shape.

I've spent three times the purchase price of my car in parts, so I am not following the need to borrow on the former and not the latter. If money is a bit tight I just don't think any old Porsche is a good idea.

If your thinking about an AT, I don't care for those in a 911.

5 spd, like Mark said, two very different cars. Maybe get a 944T, thats kind of in the middle.

Generally I think if you have a choice, you aren't irrationally stuck on a 928, get something else, 928's want devotion.

[MarkRobinson]

Hard to beat a well maintained 944 turbo: power, torque, weight, fuel economy, comfort, handling, air conditioners: all hold a huge arguement in favor of the 951.

Though, driving a 911 (or 911 turbo) is somewhat surreal at times because of the history & having a whirring air-cooled engine behind you.

[racer]

wow.. harken back to about 1978 and the choosing between a 911 and a 928 was the exact same issue Porsche management was having. Upper management wanted to phase out the 911 with the 928 from the top and the 924/44 from the bottom. Yet.. the 911 lives on. To many (self included) Porsche IS the 911. 911 IS Porsche. The rest just keep the company in business.

You've had a 928. Now try a 911. If you don't like it, just sell it.

[Pete R]

Originally Posted by racer

You've had a 928. Now try a 911. If you don't like it, just sell it.

that's probably the best point, 911's do hold there value the risk would be minimal.

btw I think judging by the new 911's size, silhouette, water cooling, weisach rear axle, and all the creature comforts they have pretty much turned it into a rear engine 928 anyhow

[glmoore001]

Thanks for all the great replies! I really thought by posting in the 928 board I would get biased opinions but I didn't. That's nice.

3.6 964 make 245-250rwhp, a nice quick car, great gearbox, AC, Brembo's, Air bags, ABS, etc.
MarkRobinson you are going to get me another ticket with suggestions like that.

Hard to beat a well maintained 944 turbo: power, torque, weight, fuel economy, comfort, handling, air conditioners: all hold a huge arguement in favor of the 951.
Ok nothing against the 944 turbo but it aint happening. I am 56 years old and going for the gusto!

"Just Depends what your looking for ? A Sports Car or a Touring car ?"

That is the correct question Racer. Its the reason I started this thread.

You've had a 928. Now try a 911. If you don't like it, just sell it.
That is a great idea.

Financing a car so so sucks, and you may have noticed you would be paying a LOT more for a 911 in nice shape.
You are right Danglerb, the 928 Seems like an awful lot of car for the money, Its a damn supercar. . .

gaaa...I hate this.

...gary

[Danglerb]

Get your finances in order, nice cars and decent deals on them will not wait for money issues, then let fate decide. Start looking for both cars and jump on the best one you find.

Driving a few more cars may firm up your opinion as well.

[glmoore001]

Thanks to everyone for the replies. When a car is purchased I will repost ....gary

[MarkRobinson]

Do lots of driving: I'd suggest at least one of every model you're considering.

[Danglerb]

I don't follow the quick dismissal of the 944T, a Porsche is a Porsche, I don't care what some say. I've owned a 914, 944T, 928, and driven at speed a number of 911's, and each have there own character, but being part of the Porsche family is unmistakeable. The main problem is that people treat them and maintain them for the most part based on what they paid for them and expect to sell them for, so its hard to find a really nice example of some models.

That said, I am firmly in the 928 5 spd camp.

[MarkRobinson]

I was gonna say the same thing but he appears set in his ways; Not sure I'd be able to sway him to consider a car he's already written off. He might not like the way they look, or think it's too boy-ish or racer-ish. 100% Agree with Danglerb.

Yes, a 5speed 928 makes all the difference over an auto.

[MPDano]

Originally Posted by MarkRobinson

Yes, a 5speed 928 makes all the difference over an auto.

Great! Just write us Auto Guys off

[MarkRobinson]

I appear to be suffering from foot-in-mouth disease this week.

Let me restate my last post: If you're a total HP & shifting guru as I am, the 5-speed may be more rewarding over the auto as I interpret the 5-speeds to be more throttle responsive.

[MPDano]

Just messing Mark. I too would like to get a late model 5speed someday.

[lfausty]

you strip away all the cushing curvy luxury ride.... 928 and you get down to meat and bones driving.... 911/912 all technical technical ride. some would say best about 928 is taking corners rest is mass of car..... 911/912 your squarely (go karty) framed driving that rear powered engine around front/back left/right all hard lines no S ees. Abosolutely incredible being it squarish riding has that extra fine something about it to being hard stiff ride yet really not, cooool, in a maculine way. it not cruises a 928 down the road , 911/912 glides wines the road long smooth rolling , quick making mph , your down that road.

928 thinner lighter looking feeling body panels 911/912 your heavy sound enclosed in there. 944 squarish now driving a front eng. canny/sound somewhat heavy body panels. not enough power to be 928 and to much luxurish to be technical 911/912.

what one does or porsche did/didnt do to models,yrs, of a make or what one does engine, suspension, fluids...... to and in between in their own personalizing.

register (depending state) 911/912 67 912 retail 1500 cost to drive yr. 15.00bucks. 928 retail 78 -39,000.00 couple hundred yr. 4/6cyl vs v8 16-32v

[glmoore001]

I don't mean to offend, but I have written off the 944. I realize the turbo model is a great car, it is just not what i want.

Between the 928 and the 911 I believe I would actually prefer the 928. I like hitting the pedal and being pushed back in that cushy leather seat. I love the way the car climbs and climbs. I love knowing nearly nothing on the road can take me on the top end. Those memories are from a 1980 3 speed auto so I know for sure that the 32 valve 4 speed S4 is going to put a smile on my face.

But...I may end up with the 911 if for no other reason than the resale value. I think the 86-88 cars will be at least worth as much as I give for it now when I am done with it as long as I keep it up. heck, if I get the guts to go for a factory wide body model, it may be worth more. Who would have thought that a 911 would end up being the practical choice of vehicles huh?

So nothing against anyone's choice in cars, it is just personal preference.

As it ends up, I am still on the fence. I will take danglerb's advice and get the money together and see what happens..

thanks...gary

[dcrasta]

Originally Posted by glmoore001

I feel the 911 will be a more reliable car ....y

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