Space saver tire

andedav · 03-11-2012, 03:21 AM

Cant find one available in Middle East, is there an alternative to a can of tire fix? Is there a "normal" tire that would fit??

Pete R · Pete R's Garage

Most of the folding space savers probably aren't any good anymore anyways, I carry a plug seal kit. A normal tire wont fit. At least not in that location.

Danglerb · 03-11-2012, 01:10 PM

I've done a fair amount of looking, and ZIP on finding a replacement for the collapsible spares.

Skip the liquid goo, get a good tire plug kit and small air compressor.

SanDiego928 · 03-11-2012, 07:49 PM

Spare tire - I have one on order from the 1/2 half off sale. Do you think they are no good? I guess I was thinking they are solid. I will be needing to get a small comp. and plug kit also.

Danglerb · 03-11-2012, 10:28 PM

The only way to know the spare is good is to inflate it, and inflating and then collapsing it may be the last gasp it has, so no way to know its reliable for its "next" inflation.

Cheap reliable source of air, 20' of good rubber hose with a female shrader valve on each end. Plug the tire and hook one end of the hose to it, then tap a little air out of the other three tires.

19psi · 19psi's Garage

I inflated and deflated mine with no issues. I've never seen or heard of a spare going bad no matter how old. They are not exposed to the elements and never see UV rays. If they have ever been used, it's typically only for a few miles.

Get a gash in your tire or kill it and the wheel on a pothole and the plug kit is useless. Now what do you do? Call for a flat bed, wait around all day and then risk having them damage your pristine 928? What if you're 100+ miles away from home...will any local places that you have the car towed to have a correct tire in stock? What if you also need a wheel?

At any given moment there are 928 temporary spares on ebay and the prices are reasonable. An air compressor can be bought for less than $15 at any big box store such as Walmart or Meijers. It's CHEAP INSURANCE.

SanDiego928 · 03-12-2012, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Danglerb

The only way to know the spare is good is to inflate it, and inflating and then collapsing it may be the last gasp it has, so no way to know its reliable for its "next" inflation.

Cheap reliable source of air, 20' of good rubber hose with a female shrader valve on each end. Plug the tire and hook one end of the hose to it, then tap a little air out of the other three tires.

Thanks, I will have to remember to check the spare when I get it. Nice to have a 1 year warranty on used parts. Nice trick with sharing of AIR in a pinch. Cool.

I am starting to travel further and further away so I better have some insurance. The roads in Cali. are really starting to be horrible in my neck of the woods. I don't even see how they will ever get them back to the way they were even 5 years ago.

SanDiego928 · 03-12-2012, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 19psi

I inflated and deflated mine with no issues. I've never seen or heard of a spare going bad no matter how old. They are not exposed to the elements and never see UV rays. If they have ever been used, it's typically only for a few miles.

Get a gash in your tire or kill it and the wheel on a pothole and the plug kit is useless. Now what do you do? Call for a flat bed, wait around all day and then risk having them damage your pristine 928? What if you're 100+ miles away from home...will any local places that you have the car towed to have a correct tire in stock? What if you also need a wheel?

At any given moment there are 928 temporary spares on ebay and the prices are reasonable. An air compressor can be bought for less than $15 at any big box store such as Walmart or Meijers. It's CHEAP INSURANCE.

Thanks 19psi for your input. Mucho appreciato.

Pete R · Pete R's Garage

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Originally Posted by 19psi

Get a gash in your tire or kill it and the wheel on a pothole and the plug kit is useless. Now what do you do? Call for a flat bed, wait around all day and then risk having them damage your pristine 928? What if you're 100+ miles away from home...will any local places that you have the car towed to have a correct tire in stock? What if you also need a wheel?

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What if you flatten 2 or more tires? What if the spare you were counting of doesn't inflate? What if the pot hole wrecks the suspension?
My point being you can't cover yourself for any situation. If the plug kit doesn't work.. exactly call a flat bed. Just like any other incapacitating break down.
personally I haven't had a flat in 20 years.. so it doesn't seem like much of a risk

Danglerb · 03-12-2012, 10:40 AM

I am pretty sure I have seen threads on rennlist about spares that either failed to inflat, or didn't last long once inflated. Search just now didn't find them.

SanDiego928 · 03-12-2012, 01:10 PM

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19psi · 19psi's Garage

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Originally Posted by Pete R

What if you flatten 2 or more tires? What if the spare you were counting of doesn't inflate? What if the pot hole wrecks the suspension?
My point being you can't cover yourself for any situation. If the plug kit doesn't work.. exactly call a flat bed. Just like any other incapacitating break down.
personally I haven't had a flat in 20 years.. so it doesn't seem like much of a risk

It's a calculated risk. Flat tires can and do happen but rarely in pairs. There is rarely a month that goes by where I don't see two to three cars on the side of a highway with one flat tire. Just last week I watched a woman pull off a main road into a Taco Bell parking lot with her wheel grinding into the pavement. Heard her coming from a block away.

Also, where I live, if you get a flat on 80/94 in a construction area, you're not going to pull over and plug your tire because there simply is no shoulder. You WILL keep driving on it with a line of pissed off people behind you until you get to a safety zone...there will be no rim left by then.

My flatbed coverage is only good for 20 miles. What would the charges be if I were visiting a relative 150 miles away?
If I have it towed to a nearby tire place, what are the odds they'll have a proper tire that day? Cost of a night in a local hotel? Trashed wheel and we're back to that long expensive tow back home.

I'm not telling anyone what they have to do; however, Porsche put a spare tire well in my car and I'll continue to keep a tire in it. If it didn't have one, I'd make it a point to buy one for less than $100 bucks vs. the cost and inconvenience of what can happen. Yes, there are a million other things that can go wrong...but I'm not going to MAKE that list any larger than it needs to be.
Like I said, it's CHEAP INSURANCE at the expense of a couple added lbs of weight.

Danglerb · 03-12-2012, 02:19 PM

Spare is around 25 lbs.

225/16 isn't a rare tire size and anything close should work. Trouble comes in if the rim is damaged, not just running flat which might make it ugly, but still hold a new tire fine, but bent or cracked or something like that.

Why is it they stopped making the collapsible spares, or is it just not Vrederstein?

Putting in a plug is much faster than swapping a spare.

Battery lives under the spare, I visit my battery frequently.

BTW no way am I changing a tire with the dork factory jack and tools.

All this is why I only use the best used tires I find in the pile behind 928Intl.

19psi · 19psi's Garage

I have no issues with plugs and that's the first route I'll take. I also keep a plug kit and a compressor removed from its housing on my motorcycles. The compressor is smaller than those CO2 inflators.

Not making them anymore was probably due to the inconvenience of having to inflate them. My Chevy Monza had one that looked just like the Porsche's and included a can of air instead of a compressor.

Pete R · Pete R's Garage

@ 19.. yeah, I guess your right it's cheap insurance, I haven't removed mine. I just wouldn't trust it. but if I had a hard time finding the donut I wouldn't worry about it either..

grinding to the pavement. lol . I've seen a woman go but the house doing the same thing. I got in my truck and followed her cause she was kinda hot and I assumed she'd be needing assistance very soon... well I followed the dual rim scrapes a town away and gave up.. she wasn't stopping

Pete R · Pete R's Garage

btw if your looking for a spare make sure you get the right one. The S4 brakes won't clear the early spares.. btw I have an early spare for sale

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19psi · 19psi's Garage

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Originally Posted by Pete R

@ 19.. yeah, I guess your right it's cheap insurance, I haven't removed mine. I just wouldn't trust it. but if I had a hard time finding the donut I wouldn't worry about it either..

grinding to the pavement. lol . I've seen a woman go but the house doing the same thing. I got in my truck and followed her cause she was kinda hot and I assumed she'd be needing assistance very soon... well I followed the dual rim scrapes a town away and gave up.. she wasn't stopping

I went through the drive through and was eating a quick lunch in my vehicle when she came scraping by. When she stopped there was nothing more than a nub left of the right front wheel with no tire anywhere. Another inch and the rocker would have been dragging.
BIG mean looking woman gets out, looks in the trunk and then just about slams it off its hinges...I think she could have bench pressed the car if the jack was missing.
I'm leaving at this point and turning onto the road she's on thinking I would stop to help. I notice she's on the phone giving someone the ass chewin' of their life.
Decided it was best not to get involved at that point. See ya!