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neil30076 03-15-2012 01:17 PM

California Introduces Bill to Exempt pre-1981 Vehicles From Emissions Inspection
 
Maybe help a few of the Ob's around here!
A bill has been introduced in the California Senate (S.B. 1224) to exempt all motor vehicles prior to the 1981 model year from the emissions inspection requirement. The bill will be considered in the Senate Transportation and Housing Committee on March 27, 2012.
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California Introduces Bill to Exempt pre-1981 Vehicles From Emissions Inspection Requirement

SanDiego928 03-15-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by neil30076 (Post 6625602)
Maybe help a few of the Ob's around here!
A bill has been introduced in the California Senate (S.B. 1224) to exempt all motor vehicles prior to the 1981 model year from the emissions inspection requirement. The bill will be considered in the Senate Transportation and Housing Committee on March 27, 2012.
Link:

California Introduces Bill to Exempt pre-1981 Vehicles From Emissions Inspection Requirement

Neil, Could you please call your buddies in the CA Assembly and ask them to change the Bill to pre-1982? Geezzzzz. Why does this always happen to me....

This year in taxes I missed the head of household with my son as a dependent due to his school lasted 16 weeks (4 days per week, 8 hours a day) but ended April 31. All I needed was for him to be in school until May 1st. Lost 4k in my pocket. Requirement is 5 months of full time school. Can be partial and non-consecutive.

I give up.......:(

MPDano 03-15-2012 02:28 PM

Neil, is this including the 1981?

SanDiego928 03-15-2012 02:44 PM

Pre-1981 only and will probably say "All Porsche 928's excluded" :rolleyes:

But, if the bill does pass, I will buy Neil one ice cream cone every year for the rest of my life or until March 31, 2012, whichever is sooner. Sounds like I should write the bill since we always seem to get screwed. lol.

MPDano 03-15-2012 02:47 PM

Just great since my 1981 Euro is CIS, Ughhhh, I'll never win in this Smog Nazi State.

neil30076 03-15-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MPDano (Post 6625774)
Neil, is this including the 1981?

I wish, then we could supercharge them!

Gonzotiki_666 03-15-2012 03:13 PM

*groan* mine is an '81 too. I don't understand why they went away from a thirty year rolling window any way. The number of thirty year old cars on the road must be staggeringly small!

Danglerb 03-15-2012 03:15 PM

No worries Leo, its not going to pass. ;)

If it did, wow would it bump some 1980 etc vehicle values, and reduce some 81+ values.

Seems to me 1975 to 1985 was a screwup, farmer fix, time for emissions controls. Bad or just poor early designs that killed performance etc.

I can say with little hesitation if 80 was exempt I would buy a cheap one in a heartbeat and make it my hot project car instead of working with my 85 Euro S and concerns with how hot the cam can go, designing some special headers etc.

Anybody have a real idea if it might pass, and when it might become effective?

MPDano 03-15-2012 03:46 PM

I might be with you. Imagine an early 80 US and what you could put in that thing. Hmmm.

XLR8928 03-15-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Danglerb (Post 6625868)
No worries Leo, its not going to pass. ;)

If it did, wow would it bump some 1980 etc vehicle values, and reduce some 81+ values.

Seems to me 1975 to 1985 was a screwup, farmer fix, time for emissions controls. Bad or just poor early designs that killed performance etc.

I can say with little hesitation if 80 was exempt I would buy a cheap one in a heartbeat and make it my hot project car instead of working with my 85 Euro S and concerns with how hot the cam can go, designing some special headers etc.

Anybody have a real idea if it might pass, and when it might become effective?

Hey Mike...I've got an '80 that I will swap for a euro.....
-Kerry :)

Danglerb 03-15-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MPDano (Post 6625925)
I might be with you. Imagine an early 80 US and what you could put in that thing. Hmmm.

All the money for a childs college education comes to mind. ;)

Of course the Chevy swap guys can all dance in a circle, but over time that has really lost its appeal to me. I only have a few issues with the existing smog tests.

Doing them and paying for them of course, its a pain and a cost I could do without.

The current stupid rules on cats and the whole exhaust system.

The chance a fun and streetable cam might not pass the idle test.

The smog checks put a big damper on trying things.

MPDano 03-15-2012 06:39 PM

I was actually talking about a nice 4.5 L-Jet and one of Carls Superchargers on it. I think that would be fun.

Pete R 03-15-2012 06:50 PM

There is NO WAY the crazy tree huggin enviro nazis are going to let that pass in the home of the Prius.
I'm actually thinking about taking a tractor trailer out to Cali and filling it up with awesome untitled and/or non emmission passing cars and bringing them back here and reselling them

Danglerb 04-07-2012 11:44 AM

Hearing is on 4/10/12
status Floor/Committee Analysis of SB 1224

JK McDonald 04-07-2012 12:43 PM

Emissions - Off the Traffic Grid
 
I am sure that in time the California emissions standards will be enforced across the country. The “Vehicle Emissions Legislation” in Texas basically states that our emissions testing is added to a car’s yearly safety inspection requirement according to 1) Population of the City and 2) Other EPA considerations. To pass the basic vehicle inspection in many smaller towns you are only required to have at least one brake lite and a couple of tires with some tread on them. Even the emission standards in our larger metropolitan areas are certainly not as strict as in the state of California. In Dallas/Fort Worth some 928 owners with CIS injection must temporarily detune their cars to where they will hardly start and idle in order to get their inspection sticker.

Years ago the fee in Texas for our license plates was a calculated value based on the age of the vehicle. Most of the time the court house would almost owe me money because many of my cars were so old that they had fallen off their charts. When the flat rate came in, everyone now pays the same exorbitant license plate fee from a ragged 62 Volkswagen bug to a Cadillac Escalade.

I think the long term plan is to eventually price us off the traffic grid or force you into a Volt. ;)

Michael

Kraqus 04-07-2012 12:56 PM

The outcome on this piece of legislature will be the decisive point of what P-car I eventually get. I am keeping my fingers crossed....including toes!


Benny

Danglerb 04-07-2012 01:27 PM

I see no material effect for 90% of 928 owners, with a huge upside for those with a 78/80 since those would turn into the "unlimited" hot rod class. The bad news is that we could then expect to see a lot more engine swaps on the early cars.

Properly running a stock 928 sails through smog inspection, and a remarkable number of people seem to slip through just fine with headers etc. (belly pan maybe helps with that).

harborman 04-07-2012 03:43 PM

Not a concern back here, no pollution tests! Some advantage to living in a colder climate with fewer people.


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