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heritage2008 08-12-2012 06:25 PM

Running finally--Thanks to all
 
So back from fishing after taking laptop with me and spending large amount of time reading in camp.

Decided to examine more connections for corrosion--yup found more.

Cleaned a few more then tried-- it fired up with just cold start injector but stumbled a tiny bit past where I left it. So-----hit it again and better--then again--better. 4th time pressed the gas and it caught more life.

Let it sit for 15 minutes thinking some gas got into the injectors so since I loaded the 2 gallons with Techron I figured I'd let it soak some.

Hit it again and better--repeated wait time.

After several more series it cleaned up and is smooth as silk.

Ran for about 15 minutes at idle and looked, smelled, listened--I'm liking it.

Letting it sit overnight and will put in more gas tomorrow and take it around the block--slowly.

Sitting for 3 years--its back to life. This is my 1st Porsche purchase/experience and have learned a ton already about these fine machines.

Would like to thank all for positive comments and suggestions--great group here on Pelican.

Now on my way to getting sunroof to open, doors windows operating etc..

mikeesik 08-12-2012 09:03 PM

This reminds me perfectly of the scene from the movie-The Breakfast Club-
'Son, how would you like to go fishing, this weekend!? Great Dad. But I've got homework to do. That's all right Son, you can do it on the boat!'
Funny movie, as you are.
Dedication. Won't let Bender touch you, I promise. You remind me, of me.

harborman 08-13-2012 07:27 AM

Glad you got it running. Mine sat for a long time too. I put in several bottles of Techron and in a short time it smoothed out. I still put one in from time to time.

924CarreraGTP 08-13-2012 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeesik (Post 6909381)
This reminds me perfectly of the scene from the movie-The Breakfast Club-
'Son, how would you like to go fishing, this weekend!? Great Dad. But I've got homework to do. That's all right Son, you can do it on the boat!'
Funny movie, as you are.
Dedication. Won't let Bender touch you, I promise. You remind me, of me.

lol That movie is funny until Emilio Estevez starts punch dancing.

Heritage2008, good to hear another one is humming.

Illini-heel 08-19-2012 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 924CarreraGTP (Post 6910814)
lol That movie is funny until Emilio Estevez starts punch dancing.

Heritage2008, good to hear another one is humming.

I have a similar issue. Mine was running (died occasionally at stop lights, but ran generally well) UNTIL I started cleaning connectors and adding dilectric grease to all of the fuses. Just before that I filled the tank with BP 93octane and a bottle of Sea Foam.

Now the starter cranks (tested battery, good with 12.4 volts), but she's not firing. Now for a huge rookie question: can you add starting fluid or equivalent to fuel injected cars like carburated models? I have an 84 US version 16V "S".

Illini-heel 08-21-2012 05:53 AM

Anyone? Help is greatly appreciated.

AirtekHVAC 08-21-2012 06:30 AM

You can use starting fluid, but not really recommended..(I am no expert, but I am doing a restoration, and it was suggested that I try to get it to fire with minimal starting fluid, as it can cause some piston / ring damage?)

So, what comes to mind is...corrosion on the 14-pin connector, or perhaps the green wire from the distributor?

Fuel pump, fuel pump relay, fuel filter? Did you clean your relays? sometimes you touch them and they fail, i noticed that when I plugged a few of mine in, it pushed the connector behind out of the socket....

I have a 78, so you are a bit more modern than me...I am sure someone else will chime in...been slow here for a few days now...

stepson 08-21-2012 07:45 AM

Yes, you CAN use it, but be very careful and use it sparingly.

lfausty 08-21-2012 07:59 AM

seafoam did its job and dislodged, to sparkplugs, tank screen, filter, fuel pressure reg, inj,lines..

if in eng oil.... if in brake booster... can you add more or less yes,harm or no harm is (?) rule of thumb 1/3 can for tank,oil,booster. used as preventative, meaning your system is clean, replaced of old parts, safe and solid first off. seafoam cleans on soo many levels can get too harsh on old parts.

the good if has petroleum in it prob wont of eaten your seals
the bad if has naptha prob would.

not burning that seafoam off sitting in crank,lines... can do more than just getting rid of sludge,carbon,buildup that you do want it to get rid of can get rid of what you dont want it to too.

all in the condition of what was restod or not, to know what the seafoam will do to parts.

maybe change spark plugs first, cycling the key/ignition may push any start of a clog/clog out of the way to get it atleast running. not to be worried about massive smoke out the exhaust that be seafoam burning it out.


* oil - it thins it out , depending on oil brand , W/W, syn , ... driving to burn it out could be a neg. if idle/pressure drop . drain it out after treatment and refill oil, as you cant drive and dont want seafoam setting in there. removing a 1/4" of sludge on a piston or valve could be a good thing or not,lol. as well gas/exhaust thinning conditions....

*amsoil product for similiar cleaning one step treatment , more /less good bad?

Illini-heel 08-21-2012 09:24 AM

Thanks to all for the help. I will likely try cleaning/ changing the fuel filter then moving on to the plugs.

Anyone have a link to pics on pulling the filter on an 84 US version 16V?

Maleficio 08-21-2012 02:08 PM

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<div style="font-style:italic">lol That movie is funny until Emilio Estevez starts punch dancing. <br>
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Heritage2008, good to hear another one is humming.</div>
</div>I have a similar issue. Mine was running (died occasionally at stop lights, but ran generally well) UNTIL I started cleaning connectors and adding dilectric grease to all of the fuses. Just before that I filled the tank with BP 93octane and a bottle of Sea Foam. <br>
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Now the starter cranks (tested battery, good with 12.4 volts), but she's not firing. Now for a huge rookie question: can you add starting fluid or equivalent to fuel injected cars like carburated models? I have an 84 US version 16V "S".
Dielectric grease blocks electron flow. I would clean it all off of your fuses and try again.

Maleficio 08-21-2012 02:12 PM

Don't forget to clean out your fuse sockets, too.

MPDano 08-21-2012 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Maleficio (Post 6926526)
Dielectric grease blocks electron flow. I would clean it all off of your fuses and try again.

Yes, I learned this from rjm65 a couple years ago. No uso for electricalo contacto stuffo. :D

Maleficio 08-21-2012 04:04 PM

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<div style="font-style:italic">Dielectric grease blocks electron flow. I would clean it all off of your fuses and try again.</div>
</div>Yes, I learned this from rjm65 a couple years ago. No uso for electricalo contacto stuffo. <img src="http://forums.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg">
What's funny is that the stuff is labeled as "dielectric contact grease".

I guess it's useful to fill the space between contacts to prevent internal arcing.

Danglerb 08-21-2012 06:41 PM

If you don't have a solid enough connection to displace the grease at the point of contact, you don't have a good connection anyway. The idea is the grease allows the contacts to move smoothly and seals around the areas that current flows through.


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