'85 Euro for sale. Guess some were wrong

[DougM]

For all the haters....
Very nice 85 928S Euro/ROW for Sale - Rennlist Discussion Forums

Mods. Go ahead and close the thread before the S*&tstorm happens....


Seriously. Why are 928 owners the biggest haters of our own car. They praise it when they own it and then unless it is a 4000 mile GTS, it is only worth $3000 needing $20k to make it right when they analyze cars for sale. These cars are now over the vintage 35 year mark and like anything, including Pacers and Yugos, they can go up in value. Many do need some $, but so do all other 25-35 yr old cars.

[19psi]

Figured it would sell quick. I'd love a car like that but unfortunately I have strict emissions testing in my county.
Hopefully the new owner enjoys it and keeps it as nice as its previous owners did.

[Fixer]

Looks like it sold for asking or $12K in bid history? Either way, good sale price.
Still can't believe he'd sell it for a 911.

Had it been to finance a home sale or some pressing life issue, i think there would have been much less 'hating'. Let's leave it at that.

[BRB-83-911SC]

Originally Posted by The Fixer

Looks like it sold for asking or $12K in bid history? Either way, good sale price.

Sold for BIN: $13,900

[Fixer]

Have any of you 928 guys heard of the '911 stress'?
(air cooled G50 Carreras very much included in this category)
It takes years to overcome, if ever for some.

[Landseer]

Originally Posted by DougM

For all the haters....
Very nice 85 928S Euro/ROW for Sale - Rennlist Discussion Forums

Mods. Go ahead and close the thread before the S*&tstorm happens....


Seriously. Why are 928 owners the biggest haters of our own car. They praise it when they own it and then unless it is a 4000 mile GTS, it is only worth $3000 needing $20k to make it right when they analyze cars for sale. These cars are now over the vintage 35 year mark and like anything, including Pacers and Yugos, they can go up in value. Many do need some $, but so do all other 25-35 yr old cars.

Because most of them are pretty much junk, Doug, until one of us invests a trillion hours.

This was a clear exception.

What I question is the fixation by some of you on value.

I make my money elsewhere and have fun with the hobby. Cheaper they are, better it is. And I'll call the BS on everyone of us that flips junk or unmerciously junks good parts.

One more time, most of this stuff isn't worth much.

[Danglerb]

What I regularly tell people is to buy the car they want when they find it without a lot of concern about getting a good deal.

A difference of opinion on value isn't hating. Hating that someone has a different opinion is hating and I have no issue with opinions that differ from mine. Plenty of cars sell for prices I don't agree with, its the nature of a very small market.

[Niles]

Yep, I was wrong. I'm glad the owner got his price. I thought it was overpriced even though it was a great looking car. That's also good news for the value of my 87 - ha.

[harborman]

Originally Posted by Niles

Yep, I was wrong. I'm glad the owner got his price. I thought it was overpriced even though it was a great looking car. That's also good news for the value of my 87 - ha.

It is amazing sometimes when I see people saying a 928 for $8K is way over priced, yet they consider one for $2000 a real deal, except that one probably needs $10K in parts and another $10K in labor. There are some clean cars around, well kept and getting scarcer everyday. If you find a clean one, $13K is a DEAL!

[Dean_Fuller]

Well...when you consider what else you can buy with $13K....4 year old Honda civic or 5 year old Mazda Miata.... $13K is not a lot of money for a rare, high performance , all aluminum V8.

I will say it again. Loosing money and cars go hand in hand. ALL cars really. New car devalues so fast it blows my mind but yet people buy them every day and never think twice about it. Why? Because they WANT to. People spend a ton of money on fishing boats, hunting leases, flying lessons, scuba gear and trips......never looking to make money or even break even but yet people with 928's........Why should it be different? If you enjoy owning yours, working on yours and looking at yours....then don't cheat yourself out of joy because it costs money. It all does.

[Dean_Fuller]

Watch a car auction some time. There are countless beauties that roll across that stage and the owner has $100K in the restoration and it sells for $50K. Why????? Because he enjoys restoring them and its a hobby. People who make money at it do not restore one in their 2 car garage by themselves at home. They have a team of employees with large work areas. A reputation in the business that helps a ton and key......VOLUMN. That's how you make money at this.

[harborman]

I think most here are in it for the car. If you make money that is a bonus. A friend just bought a new Volt for over $31K + $10K in gov. rebates. Do I want it NO. I like my 928 much better. When his Volt is in the junk heap with dead batteries, my 928S hopefully will still be around and worth more.

[Fixer]

Originally Posted by harborman

I think most here are in it for the car. If you make money that is a bonus. A friend just bought a new Volt for over $31K + $10K in gov. rebates. Do I want it NO. I like my 928 much better. When his Volt is in the junk heap with dead batteries, my 928S hopefully will still be around.

Amen to the above. My wonderful 928 cost me $5,500, that buys me a lot of fuel over the cost of the Volt.
That $10k rebate we all pay for BTW, government doesn't make money they take it.
The Volt and cars like it are useless except for in very highly populated urban areas. Gasoline powered cars are 95% cleaner on average now than in the 1960s.
They are not killing the planet as we are told. In the early 1970s as a kid i remember the same quacks in the 'Science' community scaring us into believing cars were causing the next Ice Age. By their account in 2000 the world should have been 'un-livable'. Massive amounts of death around the globe..

We have 4X the oil the Saudis have just out West. Gasoline should be 2 bucks a gallon.
The Earth has not warmed in twenty years. Look into this.
We owe our standard of living to oil. When there is an electric 757,
i will consider a Volt.
Long live our 928s.

[Danglerb]

Funny, I was just looking at the new Ford Focus hybrid and thinking when those start hitting the junkyard an electric conversion might be a practical option for a 928. OB level of performance and potential for local use entirely off the plug instead of the pump.

[Fixer]

Or how about we all stop getting screwed by OPEC.

Funny, I was just looking at the 100+ year old Lohner-Porsche Electric hub powered car.

Nobody wanted it then either. Nothing new here.

I read if we all drove electric powered autos right now, it would be much worse for the environment due to most power plants are coal fired. (See China)

Stop and think about Al Gore 'the prophet' who's in it for the profit.

Guess the cat's way out of the bag on my political preference

[laneyamps]

I did a frame-off resto on my 1970 Olds 442 (W-30).....Probably dumped about $45K into it (all my time, parts, engine rebuild, paint, etc), and sold it for around $25K. I enjoy the hobby, I love messin' with cars, love doing most of the work, etc....

I knew I might take a bath on it, but, it is what it is. When I sold it (many years ago) the Musclecar market wasn't all that great.

Loved that beauty for 7 years, loved all 575 HP, drove the crap out of it, enjoyed every minute of it, and then sold it!

It's just part of the hobby....cars & "losing money" usually go hand-in-hand....BUT, that could all depend on the car (of course).

928's are a different type of car. Not as popular as many other cars, sometimes they bring a decent chunk of change, and other times, they'll sell for almost nothing. Lots of variables with the 928. Just my 2c

[laneyamps]

Originally Posted by The Fixer

Or how about we all stop getting screwed by OPEC.

Funny, I was just looking at the 100+ year old Lohner-Porsche Electric hub powered car.

Nobody wanted it then either. Nothing new here.

I read if we all drove electric powered autos right now, it would be much worse for the environment due to most power plants are coal fired. (See China)

Stop and think about Al Gore 'the prophet' who's in it for the profit.

Guess the cat's way out of the bag on my political preference

Uh....hell yeah!

[Fixer]

I hear that Laneyamps. (name?)

Leno says if you make money restoring cars you're not doing it right.

I don't 100% agree with Jay on that one but get his point.

But in my case it has been true, almost every sale of a car or truck due to needing money I have lost big-time.

The time and sweat lost is worse than the money.


Haters don't be hate-in! (alternate name for this thread)

[jcb928]

Originally Posted by Niles

Yep, I was wrong. I'm glad the owner got his price. I thought it was overpriced even though it was a great looking car. That's also good news for the value of my 87 - ha.

How are you wrong? It was the buyer who is wrong because he overpaid

I sold a couple cars on Ebay at the Buy it Now price but the sale never completed because the buyer flaked out or it was a scam.

[lfausty]

a thought bubble just happened its not preinspection to buy a pcar its an interogation on the to be buyer. pcar makes its own checklist for you. are you going to do .....to me? have you ever wrenched on parts .....of me. Oh NO I Wont Be Going Home With You! haha Imagine all the pcars that quivered in tears as they were driven/flatbedded bedded away to a wrongful owner.