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removing cylinder head
looks like i'll be changing out the head gasket, at least.
are they any differences between this car and the '83 i already did that i need to be aware of? how seriously should i consider replacing the head studs? thanks!
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Head studs? I'm by no means an expert, but you will need a lot more hp to worry about that.
As far as I know, the only difference is the intercooler piping, but clarks-garage documents this procedure for both the turbo and NA ![]() Some things to consider while you are down there ![]() Valve grind + head resurface Water pump + rollers + timing/balance belts Gonna go for the MLS gasket? I know I am
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what is the MLS gasket?
pump and rollers only have 12K on them, supposedly. i'll have to see what i find. new belts, of course, and new vacuum lines under the intake manifold, per arnnworx.com. definitely going to resurface and touch up the valves.
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Cosmetic MLS gasket -- Just a gasket the higher hp guys use, typically lasts longer, and is thicker so if your head was to lift a little (under high boost) the gasket will keep the seal.
Kinda expensive, but a must if you are planning major mods ![]() I forgot, if you are doing some mods (or even if you are not) Might want to look into the steam vent mod. http://www.lindseyracing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LR&Product_Cod e=951-STEAM Here's the write up on it http://www.turbo944.com/bbs/config.cgi?read=1068 Summary: Because of hot temps in the head, steam collects and expands and eventually blows the #4 cylinder head gasket. Anyway -- That's my 2 cents! Check to see if your number 4 cylinder is the one that blew, and if it is, then I would absolutely do this mod. But in the end it's your choice ![]() Good choice on the vacuum lines under the intake - I actually need to do that before my head comes back from the shop! -poz
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hmm... i'll have to see what is going on. the two studs having problems are between cylinders 2-3 and 3-4.
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the stock turbo head studs are among the strongest in the industry. you shouldn't need to change them.
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I heard if you upgrade the headstuds, you will start blowing gaskets :\
[edit] Not always [/edit]
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Widefire HG and stock studs. They will take a pounding ...........as long as things are tuned properly.
I tried an MLS. Unfortunately I only skimmed the head and not the block ..........so it leaked coolant. Not tons but a little. Both surfaces must be clean. Thats why I wont do it again in car. You need to guarantee the block surface is also clean. The tolerance on the metal one is a little tighter. The stock studs on the exhaust side come out pretty easy. The ones on the intake side..........augggh. I ended up using a 2 foot pipe wrench to pull those out. YUCK. Back in the day........... when I was swapping heads daily chasing a cracked head........... I could swap one out in 2-3 hours. You can take a few short cuts if you have done it before. Overall not much different than the NA.
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you only need widefire if your block is o-ringed. otherwise, stick with the stock gasket.
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Quote:
I forget I use o-rings......
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my cylinder head (i found out yesterday when i removed it) has stainless O-rings around each combustion chamber. they seem to lock into the outside edge of the wide fire ring.
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