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Air box up-grade. Opinions.
What are your experiences with a particular airbox up-grade?
Factory Motorsound, Fabspeed, Etc.. Any increase in HP? or just better sound?
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HP increase? I really doubt it. The drilled cover does sound better (louder) at wide open throttle.
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the drilled cover does sound GREAT!!!! i just did it..... it gives about 25 "EAR" wheel horsepower......DAMN does it sound good!!
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I have the fabspeed cup box and RMB sounds great but I doubt it helps with power. It might open up some mid range response but negligible at best. Did I mention it sounds great.
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Definitely a nice sound increase. You don't neeed to buy an aftermarket cover, just drill out the airbox yourself. I have approx. 20 1" holes in mine.
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I'm going to try and find a stock airbox, or at least the cover. And drill the holes.
I've looked on eBay, but none right now. If anyone has one or see's one, give me a holler. ![]()
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call dcAutomotive at 252-977-1430 and order it from them
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Cobalt....what is an RMB? thanks
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Sorry "Rear Muffler Bypass" also known as G pipe.
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is that the little "C" looking pipe? is it loud?
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Yes it is. It is louder than stock but sounds great. Has a nice growl and sounds like it should IMO. It does not resonate like some after market exhausts and is legal even at Lime Rock by a fair amount.
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is it tough to install?
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Easy as they get unless the bolts are rusted solid maybe an hour. Once you have done one maybe 25 min. It also saves 25-30 pounds off the rear end.
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i guess just loosen the bolts that hold the muffler on and replace it with the pipe? is the muffler on the passenger side?
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Quote:
I know it is a bit basic but once your under there it will become clear.
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thanks!!
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Drilled out the Air box today similar to these pics. Very nice sound boost. Not much more than that.
Thanks everyone for the advice and feedback. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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i have the k&n air filter..does the same thing..more growl.
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It has been documented that drilling the top cover of the airbox does increase the engine's output by 6-8HP in a 993 engine. Bruce Anderson reference. The stock opening where the air goes into the filter is a bit restrictive and the engine has more volumetric efficiency that is achieved by giving the intake more holes to suck air into the engine. The HP claims from K&N and others are mythical in the 964 and 3.2L engines which are restricted by the older barn-door air flow sensor intake after the air-filter intake. Those airbox holes only make more noise and probably has no increased in HP (unless chipped).
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don't know of any horsepower gain from the k&n air fllter in my 964 (car is cyntex chipped), but the sound is very nice with it. if that's the only benefit i'm okay with it, and it likely is.
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