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jg291446 08-08-2013 01:49 PM

Sway bar tutorial please
 
Hi,

I'm doing seaches on the web and get more confused. Can someone clarify for me?

The front sway bar will help to stabilize the car. But on Internet, there are sway bars that goes near the shocks.

Also, seaches seems to put the sway bar and the drop links in the same bucket. What's the difference.

I have a 993 c2 for street use but would like to improve the driving experience. Can I just buy a front sway bar (in the trunk) or do I need to change sway bars and drop links too?

Thanks for the clarification!

Patrick

Vandit 08-08-2013 02:12 PM

The swaybar is the swaybar, the drop link is the linkage that connects the swaybar to the car's suspension at each end of the swaybar.

You're probably going to be able to reuse the drop links w/ most swaybar setups.

Upgrading the front swaybar and not touching the rear swaybar is probably going to affect the balance of the car. It will move the balance toward understeer / front washes out first when pushing through a corner.

I'm confused about your mentioning of "in the trunk" when discussing swaybars. Are you referring to a strut bar? This is a reinforcement piece for the car's unibody (reduces flex in structure) and its effects on handling will be negligible at best, especially on an otherwise stock car.

Cajundaddy 08-08-2013 02:26 PM

F&R sway bars mount under the chassis and control body roll and/or tune the balance of the car. A heavier rear sway allows the car to rotate more easily and is a favorite first move for an AX driver. Too much rear sway results in a tail happy car that lets it all hang out all the time. :eek:

FYI: A 993 cab is one of the more difficult cars to wring precise handling out of. Over-boosted power steering, a somewhat flexy chassis, and mountains of inherent understeer require deep pockets to overcome. A friend of mine added PSS9s, adjustable sways, wider front tires, and a careful alignment and corner balance for good results. Total cost around $5k.

A good first step might be to leave the suspension alone, choose a wider front tire for more bite, and get a "performance alignment" to maximize your front negative camber. This simple change may be exactly what you are looking for.

Bill Verburg 08-08-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jg291446 (Post 7591786)
Hi,

I'm doing seaches on the web and get more confused. Can someone clarify for me?

The front sway bar will help to stabilize the car. But on Internet, there are sway bars that goes near the shocks.

Also, seaches seems to put the sway bar and the drop links in the same bucket. What's the difference.

I have a 993 c2 for street use but would like to improve the driving experience. Can I just buy a front sway bar (in the trunk) or do I need to change sway bars and drop links too?

Thanks for the clarification!

Patrick

This bar that goes across the shock towers is a chassis stiffener, you really don't need one for street use

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1376000746.jpg

Thes are a front and rear RS drop link, stock front is sortta similar stock rear is shorter and straight
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1376000878.jpg

These are RS front an rear sway bars, the front has 5 adjusment holes the rear has 3, stock are thinner and not adjustable

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1376000960.jpg

the front drop link attaches to the front wheel carrier
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1376001043.jpg

RS drop link connection to RS sway bar(upper right), this one is set to +1 stiff
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1376001208.jpg

here's a rear RS drop link, set in the neutral position
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1376001332.jpg

stiffer front sway bars increase understeer/ decrease oversteer, stiffer rear does the opposite

here's a survey of 993 sway bars
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1376001520.gif

jg291446 08-08-2013 03:07 PM

Thanks guys! I realle appreciate it. You're giving me more than what I expected!

Bill Verburg 08-09-2013 05:19 AM

Here's some pics of stock sway bars

front
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1376054153.jpg

rear, note the short drop links and position above the transverse link
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1376054239.jpg


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