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rkeele 06-24-2014 08:55 AM

964 ignition problems stumped
 
Hi guys I don't know if anyone can help with this but my 964 motor only runs on one side ignition module and coil, motor will start and run on one wiring harness plug to module but will backfire and shutdown when trying to run on other module alone:( I replaced the igniter {ignition module} and no different, checked harness with ohm meter all wires checked out from ECM to connector plugs, If I switch connector plugs to other module and coil then that side works :confused: I thought motor should run on either side of module, wondering about my Dme ECU, The motor will run with both modules plugged in however down 45-50 hp, checked resonance valve flapper;and WOT switch, idle micro switch, distributers, rotors, running out of ideas,
thanks Bob

porterdog 06-24-2014 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkeele (Post 8132280)
If I switch connector plugs to other module and coil then that side works...

Seems like that's your smoking gun; you need to check the wiring upstream of that point since obviously everything downstream of that connection functions when connected to the known-good control harness.

bazar01 06-24-2014 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkeele (Post 8132280)
Hi guys I don't know if anyone can help with this but my 964 motor only runs on one side ignition module and coil, motor will start and run on one wiring harness plug to module but will backfire and shutdown when trying to run on other module alone:( I replaced the igniter {ignition module} and no different, checked harness with ohm meter all wires checked out from ECM to connector plugs, If I switch connector plugs to other module and coil then that side works :confused: I thought motor should run on either side of module, wondering about my Dme ECU, The motor will run with both modules plugged in however down 45-50 hp, checked resonance valve flapper;and WOT switch, idle micro switch, distributers, rotors, running out of ideas,
thanks Bob

Do you know which one on the dual dsitributor is the igniter connected to that will start and run? There is a primary and secondary on the twin dizzy. Did you check the dizzy belt?

rkeele 06-24-2014 04:37 PM

either one connector that works is secondary, hook it up to primary now that side works!

rkeele 06-24-2014 04:39 PM

yes distributer belt checked

rkeele 06-24-2014 06:32 PM

Sorry for the confusion plug that works is the primary, could the DME computer cause this? I think primary and secondary wires should connect somewhere in harness so still looking.

rkeele 06-24-2014 08:34 PM

Thanks so much SmileWavy that figures found 2 hall sensor wires disconnected repaired them but apparently still not working. Bob

mysocal911 06-24-2014 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkeele (Post 8133179)
Sorry for the confusion plug that works is the primary, could the DME computer cause this? I think primary and secondary wires should connect somewhere in harness so still looking.

The DME ECM provides just one output for both ignition modules.
A Hall sensor problem will not affect the spark signal output to either
coil. Again, there's the just one spark signal output.

You need to run one set of spark plugs at a time to determine the problem.
Start by getting one set to run and then switch the connector from the non-running
set, i.e. at the ignition module. If it again runs, the wiring from the DME ECM
is O.K. Use this procedure to eliminate good components from the non-running set
of spark plugs.

rkeele 06-25-2014 08:28 AM

we have done that checked each side ,1 ignition module plug the primary side works engine runs when plugged into either module primary and secondary. what happened to the post from RSSCOTTY ??said he had same issue :confused: he said bad hall sensor ,changed dizzy and problem fixed
Bob

rkeele 06-29-2014 09:25 AM

Problem found :) bad connection at igniter plug thanks for the help porterdog Bob

914986 05-15-2017 03:59 AM

I'm having the same problem. When you say it was a problem in the plug, can you give any details?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-964-993-technical-forum/956700-ignition-woes-runs-top-bottom-but-not-both.html


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