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lookin 09-13-2007 09:11 PM

Pointers for 1st D/E at Thunderhill
 
Hey Everyone-

I'm getting my stock 75 911s tech'd on Monday and will be doing my first D/E event at Thunderhill next weekend.:)

Any tips and is there camping at Thunderhill?

Thanks

Dale

pgeorgeson 09-13-2007 09:24 PM

Not clear from your post whether this is your first DE event, or just your first time at Thunderhill.

If it is your first DE event, Thunderhill is a great track for the first outing and was recommended to me as the place to get started on the track. There is lots of open space and very few intimidating concrete walls lurking just of the track. I presume you will have an instructor, so my advice would be just to: (1) plan on having fun; (2) listen to your instructor; and (3) focus on learning the line, without worrying about how fast (or slow) you are getting around the track.

There is some good video on the Thunderhill web site that you can use to familiarize yourself with the track, so at least you will have some idea of where the turns are.

I haven't camped there myself, but there are usually people camping. Most of the campers (unless they are in big motorhomes) head down to the far end of the paddock on the right side (pit side).

lookin 09-13-2007 09:44 PM

It's my first D/E and I thought it would be cool to camp if there are campsites like laguna. Thanks for the tips.SmileWavy

emcon5 09-14-2007 05:17 AM

No campsites, but there are a lot of electrical hookups. You just need to be creative:

http://www.shedracing.net/sccacamp.jpg

lookin 09-14-2007 09:50 AM

Cool, and thanks for the pic.SmileWavy

Jack Olsen 09-14-2007 09:53 AM

Thunderhill is a great learning track, but instruction is essential if you're going to learn it. The 'driving line' is kind of an abstract concept, before you're on a track, but if you're patient with learning the new ways to position, accelerate and brake your car, you'll get the hang of it pretty quickly.

If you just 'drive around it, fast,' like it's a country road, you'll be frustrated and not very quick.

lookin 09-14-2007 10:09 AM

Jack-

There seems to be a lot to remember and/or learn, so I'll be all ears with one big smile in the middle.

thanks for the tips.

Dale

juanbenae 09-14-2007 11:18 AM

bring your own shade, as in an easy up. if you dont get under the overhang you will be a rasin by noon.

oh, and have fun.

T$

Jack Olsen 09-14-2007 12:41 PM

Oh yeah, the best tip: Get their when the gates open, and get a place under the cover in the parking lot.

And watch my Thunderhill video in my signature -- it rawks!

jrdavid68 09-14-2007 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Olsen (Post 3479463)
Thunderhill is a great learning track, but instruction is essential if you're going to learn it....

This is a GGR PCA DE/TT, you will have access to some of the best instruction around!

juanbenae 09-14-2007 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Olsen (Post 3479713)
And watch my Thunderhill video in my signature -- it rawks!


like,,,, no duh!

T$

ZOA NOM 09-14-2007 07:15 PM

Watch out for turn 8!!!

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n..._turn8save.jpg

Dave at Pelican Parts 09-14-2007 07:42 PM

I dunno about a 75 911, but I would consider having new (or used for a few days or a week) and fresh fresh fresh brake fluid! It's a Very Good Thing to not have to worry about your brakes at the end of a session...

--DD

lookin 09-14-2007 08:58 PM

Just purchased an ez up sunshade to keep my pale skin away from mr. sun. will watch jack's video. will look at zoanas avatar a couple million more times and will change da brake fluid. also dropping the car off at a friend's shop for the tech inspection on monday so he can make sure everthing is OK. This will give them time to do the fixes if problems are found.

I feel like a kid waiting for christmas.

emcon5 09-15-2007 08:57 AM

It shouldn't be as bad in mid September as it can be in July/August, but Hydrate, sunscreen, hydrate, wear a hat, hydrate.

The covered area is nice, but if you need electrical power it is limited to the very north end, and depending on who you are running with, that area may not be available. NASA uses it for impound, for that very reason (Shade and electricity)

I prefer electricy to shade, as we always bring shade with us.

Tom

ZOA NOM 09-15-2007 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookin (Post 3480338)
will look at zoanas avatar a couple million more times...

What? :confused:

juanbenae 09-15-2007 02:13 PM

rix, repost the link to your save in 8 as your link above is no bueno. that clip rawks too!

T$

juanbenae 09-15-2007 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emcon5 (Post 3480764)
I prefer electricy to shade, as we always bring shade with us and see that we get as close to the cement pond as we cans.

Tom

tom, shout out! is this the "hill-billy delux" creito above? cement pond, keep killin me......

not seen or heard much from you as of late. things good i hope? is being a papa takin all yer spare time?

T$

emcon5 09-15-2007 06:08 PM

Hi Toby, been a quiet year in the motorsports front. I haven't turned a wheel on track since the 25 hour race last year. Not planning on racing it this year either, the team I drove for the last 2 years is putting on a major effort, with sponsors and such, and the level of prep and effort going in has priced it out of my budget. Dean, Laura and Juan are doing it though, and I will most likely be there to help out, and fuel if needed.

Ron rolled the car last August, we slapped it back together for the final event, and the engine failed.

To further aggrevate things, NASA eliminated our race class, I changed jobs and my wife quit her job to take care of the Man-Child, so the racing budget took a hard hit. The good news is that we found a parts car and replaced the damaged section of the roof. We are making good progress on the body work, and have all the engine pieces ready to go to the machine shop next week. We are rebuilding to the Performance Touring rules, and hope to run some enduros next year.

I am kind of irritated the car isn't ready, NASA is running Thunderhill bass-ackwards next month, and I have never driven it the wrong way.

When you giving up on this nancy-boy track day BS and going racing?:D I know of a fully sorted car with NASA log book with spares and a fresh engine you could get into for cheap (~$2K, much less than you spent on your transmission, methinks). Setup advice is free.:D

Tom

jerryw 09-15-2007 06:29 PM

If you bring an easy up to Thunderhill make sure you have weights and straps to hold it down. Last DE with GGR at least 2 blew away and hit things.

lookin 09-15-2007 08:13 PM

Just ordered the ez up shade (my portable casa) and was thinking of different ways to weigh it down.

Looks like I could make a couple abs tubes and fill them with water/sand or buy a couple nylon bags from target and fill them with rocks/sand.

I'm leaning towards the bags. what do you guys think?

thanks,

Dale

juanbenae 09-15-2007 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZOANAS (Post 3480256)



and thats what earned rix his BAP player's club international card.

by the way i love where you dubbed in russel crow for the line at the top of 9. you know where you had him say in his handsome voice ' it was the extra weight ...pause.... thats what got me".....

T$

trekkor 09-15-2007 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookin (Post 3481558)
Just ordered the ez up shade (my portable casa) and was thinking of different ways to weigh it down.

Old kart tires filled with concrete and a threaded rod or an inverted eye-bolt embedded in it.
Slip the hole on the foot of the EZ-UP over the rod and spin on a wing nut.

I have a set of tires if you want them.


KT

emcon5 09-15-2007 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookin (Post 3481558)
Just ordered the ez up shade (my portable casa) and was thinking of different ways to weigh it down.

Looks like I could make a couple abs tubes and fill them with water/sand or buy a couple nylon bags from target and fill them with rocks/sand.

I'm leaning towards the bags. what do you guys think?

We normally use the rain wheel/tires, or the ramps from the trailer, but that probably doesn't help.

You could use your spare tire and ice cooler for 2 of the corners. For the others, you could use your floor jack if you are bringing one, or 2.5 gal water jugs. They are cheap, have a molded in handle to hook the tie down, and won't go to waste, you can drink them after the event.

Tom

lookin 09-15-2007 09:51 PM

trekkor-

thanks for the tire offer. I'll be trying to stuff everything into the car and drive it up to the event, so I was thinking bags or something like it would be a good idea because it would be compact. hmmm..

Mahler9th 09-16-2007 02:04 PM

Have fun at t-hill. For the ez-up, one approach is to use plastic 5 gal paint buckets or similar. I use the plastic cat litter buckets. I just fill them with water at the track. So they are light until I need them heavy.

To augment on a windy day, I use extra wheels/tires, or if I have to my full fuel containers.

I have seen ez ups way up in the air on windy days so be careful. At night, sometimes it is best to take them down, or tie them to the car.

The best way to learn is with an instructor, and GGR has the best. NCRC and Trackmasters also have great instructors. I would NOT use any of the on-line videos these other fellas have posted as instructional tools. GGR has a written track guide document which is pretty good. Norcal Shelby club has a pretty good one as well.

Have fun.

lookin 09-16-2007 02:20 PM

And the winner is paint buckets :p

ZOA NOM 09-16-2007 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahler9th (Post 3482466)
I would NOT use any of the on-line videos these other fellas have posted as instructional tools.


One never learns so well as from mistakes. :)

lookin 09-24-2007 09:37 AM

Everyone-

I had a great time at thunderhill and even got a ride with trekkor when I stopped by sears point on my way to thunderhill!

Thanks for all the advice and trekkor thanks for the ride.

Dale

juanbenae 09-24-2007 02:11 PM

oohhh you were dale! you used my lid if i recall. now i understand the urgency in getting a helmet when you were out at sears...

i wish i got it then i would have sent my extra one with yee. good to meet you, i wish i would have realized you were you, i could have gotten you to the front of the trekkor autograph line. i know the guy a little.

T$

lookin 09-24-2007 03:01 PM

Toby-

good to meet you and thanks for the lid. I had a great time getting a ride from trekkor at sears and a great time driving at thunderhill. As you know it's sooooooooooo much fun.

thanks again,

dale

trekkor 09-24-2007 06:52 PM

Good to meet you.


KT


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