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Please rescue this '72 911s with RS/SC flares

Someone please rescue this neglected '72 911s chassis:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4512797260

I just went to look at it. Here's what I found:

VIN: 9112301676
Engine number: 6221362
Built 6/72
Paint code 114-9-1 -- Yellow
Front shocks orange/red -- Koni?
Rear shocks yellow -- Bilstein?
No sunroof
RS/SC flares
No Fuchs
No deck lid

The VIN corresponds to a '72 911S. The plaque in the trunk indicates 911S also. The engine serial number indicates a '72 911E engine. The engine shroud is green -- is that consistent with 911E? The car has had a lousy repaint in a grey color. The paint is chipping all over, and there is surface rust. But I saw no perferations. The hood looks like it has bondo. The body has various small dents, but nothing big. The late model rear bumper is a fiberglass piece that can easily be removed to restore the early body line. Rear RS/SC flares have been added. I don't know how to tell if they are RS flares or SC flares, but assuming the flares were added before '86, it seems likely that they are RS. I can feel the seam inside the wheel arches where the flares were welded on.

The seller said that they were able to crank the engine, but unable to start it. The throttle linkage on the engine was wedged at full throttle, but I couldn't tell exactly where the linkage was frozen. The underside of the engine was coated in oil.

The seller seemed like a reasonable person and owns an auto shop in SF. He said that the car belongs to a friend of his, and has been in a warehouse since '86. Plates had '86 registration sticker on them, and it had an '86 San Francisco area G parking sticker on it.

Since the chassis is a 911S, I would really like to see someone rescue it, rather than part it out. If you are going to take the body down to bare metal and repaint, it seems like the poor condition of the paint would be a non-issue. Two questions out of curiosity. What is the value of this car, and what kind of seat does it have with the wide bolsters? It's not the usual early sport seat.

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Make me a deal, I would be happy to restore it to original as possible.
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Here are some pictures. I don't have an login with the Early S registry. Could someone with a login there, please cross post?

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Here are a few pictures from the Ebay ad. What kind of seat is this?

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The seat looks like a late model turbo/sport seat but it is missing a head rest. The problem is that the Porsche seats had integrated headrests. I don't know what kind of seat that is.

It will need a front pan. Any pics of the rockers/jack pionts/lower doors or other areas of potential rust?

Paint code? looks like it could have been light yellow, bahama yellow, or signal orange looking at the trunk.
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Sorry, didn't get any more pictures, as my camera battery ran out. Generally, the rust didn't look structural to me, only surface. Maybe another SF Pelican can have a better look. One thing that I forgot to mention was that the paint was bubling next to the rear window on the passenger side, so there probably is some more significant rust there.

Peter Morgan (The Origianal Porsche) lists the paint code as Signal Yellow.

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That's a Recaro sport seat, but not a Porsche one - it looks like a 70s aftermarket sport seat to me, sans headrest.

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green would indicate a E engine...
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[B]Here are some pictures. I don't have an login with the Early S registry. Could someone with a login there, please cross post?

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Wow...an orange '72 911S in the rough. See a Signal Yellow car here: http://members.cox.net/chris911rs/911T.htm It seems like a light orange to me.

Too bad it doesn't have the S engine in it still, although a '72 911E engine isn't too shabby. Yet anothother early car whose chrome was painted over and rear bumper and flares "updated" to look like an '80s 911. Why oh why!

At least whoever painted the car left all the original engine area stickers and doorjamb VIN sticker. A great project for somebody...

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That'd fit right in with my other two pieces of junk. Too bad its not local to me

I guess we'll see what a 72 S parts car will fetch on ebay!
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Well, it looks like one of our fellow Pelicans is the high bidder - Derek Oxford. Hopefully he'll win the auction, because I feel he'll give it a good home.
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Looks like a 72 S title is worth more than we thought!
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I received requests for more photos, so I stopped by today and took a few more. The rust really doesn't look too bad. I don't really see any in the floor boards and rocker panels.

I did notice eye bolts in the floor in the typical place for racing lap belts. You can see the botton of one bolt in one of the photographs of the underside of the car.

The seller says there is no title, but that the owner is available to sign off bill of sale. How does that work?

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Holy cow, I just checked, and the bid is up to $6K! How can that be justified for an S body in such poor condition with only an E engine?

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Check that - 7600... Wow - but have you seen what restored 1972 or 1973 s cars have been going for?
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but have you seen what restored 1972 or 1973 s cars have been going for?
Well yeah but those cars have the correct 911S engine and a title!

I don't understand why a 911S chassis without the correct drivetrain would be worth that much more than a 911T in similar condition with an E motor.
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Incredible.

This makes a $40k original 'S' look bargain-like.

Chuck, I don't understand why your '69 targa hasn't sold yet.
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Well - look at the floors - looks like minimal rust - california car - easy to source a "s" engine, there was one on pelican a week or so ago... But yes, looks like crazy money to me - I'd rather have your E personally. I think the "S" has become more of an emotional thing to alot of people. I'm sure Paul (pwd92s) has been offered over the 50K mark for his car -
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color is signal yellow-same as my '72.
looks like it still has the S gauges.
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