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Yes. But understand, when a ricer is with his little lady, he must always be spanked HARD.

And as you spank them, you must have your stereo system setup so that a guitar wails HARD in the background.

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Would Ferrari build one of these SUV's?

.... maybe Kia should start building stretch limos!

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Pepperwagen will sell... unfortunately!

My worst nightmare is that the Cayenne will sell beyond Porsche's wildest dreams, hence validating their new "market driven" strategy.

Then we'll hear... "We'd love to go back to racing, and we realize we pissed off some of our (former) sports car fans by indefinitely delaying the Carrera GT, the 996-v8, the Boxster 3.6L, and the planned Boxster Coupe (2500 lbs. with 250hp 3.2L) and Coupe CS (2450 lbs. with 295hp 3.6L), but you can't argue with market demand -- buyers, especially landscape architects based in Monaco and Carmel, are just crying for a Cayenne Crew Cab for their fleets. We're even introducing some new colors such as Kentucky Bluegrass, Maple Tree Red, and Green Thumb."

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Even worse than the fact that Porsche is bringing the pig to market is that the beast will sell and sell well. SUVs are not a fad, despite what many people say. Fads die quickly. The popularity of SUVs has been growing each year for 25+ years.

Granted, they have to evolve from the traditional truck-based chassis and truck-like handling, gas mileage and performance, but they aren't losing popularity. Porsche knows that, at least. There is no doubt in my mind, the Cayenne is the Porsche of SUVs and will be rock solid, fast, ride great, handle fantastically, and leak a little oil.

It still sucks.
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Well, I'm 35 and drive a hot rod '72 911 that makes around 270hp at wheels and is now on a serious diet on a quest for 2100 pounds.

When I sell my house (or win the lottery - whichever comes first!) I will be proud to park a TT Cayenne in the garage next to my '72.

And, FWIW, it's not really a SUV but part of the growing number of SUV/station wagon hybrids which looks like the next wave of such vehicles.

Personally, I can only think of one car builder with the history and knowledge to tackle such a task. Porsche's racing history coupled with its rally history should add up to a potent sports car that can boogie in the sand, the snow or haul a keg or three to a ranch bar-b-que. It would also be ideal to haul my almost 4 year old daughter and all her 'stuff' around town or cross country.

I do agree that many of the water-pumper guys may not be aware of the Porsche heritage, but quite a few others are quite active in the racing scene. Heck, even a 996 variant, albeit a racing one, won the GT class at Le Mans recently. And the Factory continues to provide built race cars to the privateers and offer some "help" on the side.

I know the board has a slant to the early cars, but i do find some of the stereotypical criticism here a bit harsh (although I agree with much of it too! ) And, it takes alot for me to step in and defend the water cooled Porsches!

While many may diasgree with the concept of the Cayenne, perhaps we should withhold the harshest words until we have seen and driven the beast.

Seems that every iteration of each "new" Porsche has awakened much of the strong feelings shown here . . . and some level of acceptance of the new models years later.

I guess the positive factor here is that each of us truly loves the Porsche that we drive and that strong feeling results in a "fanatic"! Let's hope the newer models and the Cayenne create more fanatics.

2 Centavos from a Porsche fanatic who loves his early hot rod and wants a TT Cayenne.

Best to all,

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I may have committed reverse discrimination this evening! To be honest, I still have trouble identifying 996's, Mitsu Eclipse's (I think?), and Boxsters - they've all got a similar front end. One was coming at me and as it passed I just caught a wave out of the corner of my eye. It was a 996. Oops - sorry leaseboy! -- Curt
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