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Tremelune 06-01-2019 05:22 PM

'74 RSR replica with Tesla motor
 
Not mine, but damn cool:

https://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php/911-rsr-tesla-motor-192602.html

It's a '79 SC with a Model S motor in the back and two 1st gen Chevy Volt packs. The good photos are here:

https://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1030081&postcount=186

Trackrash 06-01-2019 05:37 PM

Perhaps a foto or two posted here would be nice. The site the links are to has two many annoying popups and video adds and no pictures of the car unless I subscribe to the site! :mad:

dicklague 06-01-2019 05:44 PM

What a waste of time, effort and $$.

Tremelune 06-01-2019 05:44 PM

I was gonna, but they're too big and I don't want to host them myself...BUT:

https://www.diyelectriccar.com/forum...9&d=1547694206

https://www.diyelectriccar.com/forum...9&d=1547694237

Tremelune 06-01-2019 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dicklague (Post 10477415)
What a waste of time, effort and $$.

How much would it cost to get the same amount of reliable torque to the wheels from...literally any air-cooled motor...and how often is that done?

Reiver 06-01-2019 06:39 PM

Why? In that vehicle......they should have done a Gremlin.

icarp 06-01-2019 06:40 PM

thanks I won't look

manbridge 74 06-01-2019 06:44 PM

Do they admit curb weight? Guessing close to a thousand pounds more than an ICE version...

Where do I not sign up?

slow&rusty 06-01-2019 07:28 PM

What a stupid pointless idea

mb911 06-01-2019 07:52 PM

His dad has a wonderful 914-6 GT clone. The car was a roller that was gutted so not much original. I wouldn't have done it but people think I am crazy for my projects so who am I to judge.

Jeff Alton 06-01-2019 09:38 PM

Is this the car in question? Took these pics at Sema and was underwhelmed by the overall execution...

74 it is not.... Hence my question if this is the same car.

This look reminds me of the way classic bugs got the "cal look" back in the 80's...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1559450213.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1559450213.JPG

Cory M 06-01-2019 10:19 PM

Ironic, but the way our laws are written I think this would fail smog in California (underhood inspection, removal of factory smog devices) :)

Bigtoe32067 06-01-2019 11:07 PM

The rwb look look likes crap with a longhood! I actually like them in the later cars but certainly not on this
Tony

HarryD 06-02-2019 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reiver (Post 10477468)
Why? In that vehicle......they should have done a Gremlin.

As a hybrid, this was already done in 1970 by my college.

See page 2 of this pdf https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/47190002.pdf

GothingNC 06-02-2019 06:30 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1559481955.png
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1559481955.png

Cool build with a Tesla motor in the Charotte area. It is on the road now

Tremelune 06-02-2019 10:10 AM

Ah, the valuable naysayers...I take it y'all just don't like electric cars in general? Different strokes for different folks. I like a clutch pedal and roaring flat-six as much as the next car nerd, but electric cars are sweet, and classic hot rod conversions are starting to kick ass.

The car above isn't the same one. I'm not a fan of the '74 RSR look, and there is more modification in the chassis than I'd ever want to put in, but the build is well done.

With two sets of Volt packs, it will certainly be heavy, but part of the builder's goal was to keep battery costs down until the project was proven, at which point Tesla batteries will have come down in cost (they have greater power/weight than Volt batteries). A lot of the weight is determined by desired range, really. With 100mi range, it could very well be lighter, better balanced, with (way) more power than stock. As it sits, I believe it's a few hundred over stock with similar weight balance front/rear.

Laughter-inducing torque: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQbKBapxK4U&t=50s

manbridge 74 06-02-2019 10:46 AM

100 mile range is a giant leap backwards in technology.

Electric is cool, just not in old vintage cars IMO.

Should be getting the new Taycan in soon and will report my driving impressions...

manbridge 74 06-02-2019 11:03 AM

Let’s get some math going.

Two Volt battery packs: 870lbs
One Tesla drive unit: 295lbs
Assorted wiring and I’m guessing cooling fluids: 100lbs

So some 1,270 lbs vs. 400lb weight of say a hot 2.8 RSR along with 110 mag case trans makes for a 720lb heavier 911.

Tremelune 06-02-2019 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manbridge 74 (Post 10477893)
100 mile range is a giant leap backwards in technology.

Should be getting the new Taycan in soon and will report my driving impressions...

Right tool for the right job, and all that...Electrics are great in stop-and-go, short-trips, and in cities and towns—which is where most people do their driving. Now you can enjoy it in a classic without working the drivetrain to death. Also, killer torque from a stop. I recognize that this position doesn't hold much water for someone wringing it out all day in the mountains...

The Taycan looks wicked. I'm very interested in its real world performance.

wareaglescott 06-02-2019 11:17 AM

It is almost comical to me that some of the responders seem personally offended by the project. lol

It is not for me but I can appreciate the work and effort by the builder to do something they wanted to do. To each his own. I love seeing different peoples ingenuity.

Trackrash 06-02-2019 11:59 AM

Here is the ideal candidate for an electric conversion. 100 hp Warp 9 motor.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1559501958.jpg

dannobee 06-02-2019 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory M (Post 10477602)
Ironic, but the way our laws are written I think this would fail smog in California (underhood inspection, removal of factory smog devices) :)

Electric cars are exempt from CA smog laws.

pmax 06-02-2019 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tremelune (Post 10477398)
Not mine, but damn cool:

https://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php/911-rsr-tesla-motor-192602.html

It's a '79 SC with a Model S motor in the back and two 1st gen Chevy Volt packs. The good photos are here:

https://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1030081&postcount=186

Can't see any of the photos on that site but would look forward to your build here.

BlueHorizon 06-02-2019 07:46 PM

Wait, would now be a bad time to declare that I’m building a backdated 911 (ST style) powered by a Tesla motor? :D

Why? Because I love the aesthetics of the old 911s, enjoy the instant torque of electric motors and, most importantly, want to learn a lot in the build process of this vehicle.

Right now I’m still in the stages of getting to body sorted out (the old girl was not well taken care of), but have the Tesla motor modified, ready and waiting. It’s going to be a long journey and hopefully I can get input from the experts here as I build out the new suspension, brakes and other parts of the car.

P.S. the white car at SEMA is not the same vehicle as the one in the EV build thread.

75 911s 06-03-2019 09:48 AM

Not a bad time at all. If we want this hobby to survive another generation, it's a great way to get younger generations excited about the body style and motorsports.

Tremelune 06-03-2019 07:23 PM

BlueHorizon, do you have a thread for the EV side of things yet?

manbridge 74 06-03-2019 08:36 PM

Go for it! Maybe it will rock some socks off.

To each his own....

micheloaks 09-02-2019 09:55 PM

Consider it as proof of concept and as mentioned above plenty a cool classic hot rods and converted over to Electric… Das future ist coming

Technology evolves electric motor at Klassicks if you want to keep the car on the road in the future id how it’s done

I do recall I think Toyota some years ago now converting a 2000 GT to Electric?

It was done for a few reasons obviously to raise the profile on the technology and cause a serious Internet buzz

Years later electric hybrid other cars becoming more common place like it or not and will continue unless some other form of propulsion… Jet packs anyone… Is cost affectively provided

If holding any opinion on the aesthetic’s but conceptually it’s good to see you’ve been done and with the continual evolution of technology will only become more cost-effective pound per dollar for any given power output

micheloaks 09-02-2019 09:57 PM

Apologies voice to text makes it a bit muddled

micheloaks 09-02-2019 10:04 PM

Consider it as proof of concept and as mentioned above plenty a cool classic hot rods and converted over to Electric… Das future ist coming

Technology evolves electric motor at Klassicks if you want to keep the car on the road in the future id how it’s done

I do recall I think Toyota some years ago now converting a 2000 GT to Electric?

It was done for a few reasons obviously to raise the profile on the technology and cause a serious Internet buzz

Years later electric hybrid other cars becoming more common place like it or not and will continue unless some other form of propulsion… Jet packs anyone… Is cost affectively provided

If holding any opinion on the aesthetic’s but conceptually it’s good to see you’ve been done and with the continual evolution of technology will only become more cost-effective pound per dollar for any given power output

Cory M 09-03-2019 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannobee (Post 10478022)
Electric cars are exempt from CA smog laws.

Yes, but you are also not allowed to modify any of the vehicles original smog equipment without violating the law. I'm sure you could pass at a referee station with some explanation, I just thought it would be a funny situation.


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