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I still believe that if this 930 has less than 30,000 miles and it was fully restored it would be worth $120,000 all day long.

I’m just not convinced $100,000 here would get you the concours level restoration you would need..
didn't you just say that this car wasn't even a 930 anymore?


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"All", bub?!?!
you, fortunately, are the exception to the 930 snobbery. derrick as well. the "930 club" could use more owners of your ilk.

*forum bro knuckles*

all of the posturing and bloviating, they're just cars!...
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"All", bub?!?!





I certainly don't; for the most part, I think it is a crying shame when a 930 is restored to original condition, considering that they are ripe with much suck in as-delivered, full of many compromises states.

They are made to be modded, built and hobbied to the max.




Ha ha - fookin' hilarious!


You do realize that the 930 held the title for the fastest accelerating car in the world for most every year it was manufactured right?

Car & driver hit 0-60 in 4.7

Road & track stated that a 930 would out accelerate any car in the world including the ferrari 512 bbi and the lamborghini countach 5000s..

The undisputed ace of acceleration.

You may gain a little performance but you loose what is most important. The very characteristics and charisma that make it a porsche 930.

Preserve history, excellent stewardship, leaving as the factory intended.

These are the core values that a respectful and mindful owner should always remember.

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You do realize that the 930 held the title for the fastest accelerating car in the world for most every year it was manufactured right?

Car & driver hit 0-60 in 4.7

Road & Track stated that a 930 would out accelerate any car in the world including the ferrari 512 bbi and the lamborghini countach 5000s..

The undisputed ace of acceleration.

You may gain a little performance but you loose what is most important. The very characteristics and charisma that make it a porsche 930.

Preserve history, excellent stewardship, leaving as the factory intended.

These are the core values that a truly respectful and mindful owner should always remember.
are you for real? this coming from the guy who has no first hand knowledge of such things as his 930 is too busy sitting the garage getting waxed instead of being driven.

your 930 preservationist stance is a personal choice, and one you have every right to make. however, to cast aspersions on those 930 owners who see it differently than you is comical. it's a fact that porsche left a lot of performance on the table with those cars. those cars can, in fact, be made better thru modification.

i can't understand why you insist on hating on anyone who chooses to enjoy their car differently than you do.

go actually hit 95 in 2nd gear, then you can come back and tell us how fast the 930 is with some authority. maybe quit reading about it and go experience it?

it's a car, homeboy. an awesome, iconic car, sure. but just a car...
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930xxxxxx,

I'm well aware of the performance stats of the day and also aware that Porsche left a lot on the table due to having to adhere to emissions, safety, and noise requirements of the various markets they sold them in.

The cars were not built, "as the factory intended" in many respects, but as they were forced to do (and in some cases, via outright dumbassery - the long run of the horrible 3LDZ turbocharger as a case in point - that a mindful owner would correct).

Why leave the car in half-baked performance condition when the ways and means to build the car as it was meant to be are readily available? That is vehicular neglect and abuse right there.
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You do realize that the 930 held the title for the fastest accelerating car in the world for most every year it was manufactured right?

Car & driver hit 0-60 in 4.7

Road & track stated that a 930 would out accelerate any car in the world including the ferrari 512 bbi and the lamborghini countach 5000s..

The undisputed ace of acceleration.

You may gain a little performance but you loose what is most important. The very characteristics and charisma that make it a porsche 930.

Preserve history, excellent stewardship, leaving as the factory intended.

These are the core values that a respectful and mindful owner should always remember.
Youíve clearly never driven a 935.
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And as Tony V (another non-snob 930 guy, despite being in another world of $$$ and car ownership than most here ) likes to point out, back in the day, Porsche Motorsports offered many parts to fix the 930s' shortcomings, just as Ducati, and many other high performance manufacturers do currently. In other words, the factories are aware that they sell overly compromised performance machines that beg to be improved upon (plus they can make some additional coin at the same time, of course).
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. . .

You may gain a little performance but you loose what is most important. The very characteristics and charisma that make it a porsche 930.

. . .
I don't think most car people would call a gain of 75-100hp (attainable with non-overly invasive mods) "little". And each to their own, but I do not consider design limitations and flaws to be a sign of a car's charisma - those are called blemishes.

And regarding your "king of acceleration" comment - if you want to feel some real acceleration out of your 930, install a non-restrictive muffler and a turbocharger that actually works, and you will shart yourself in amazement.
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930xxxxxx,

I'm well aware of the performance stats of the day and also aware that Porsche left a lot on the table due to having to adhere to emissions, safety, and noise requirements of the various markets they sold them in.

The cars were not built, "as the factory intended" in many respects, but as they were forced to do (and in some cases, via outright dumbassery - the long run of the horrible 3LDZ turbocharger as a case in point - that a mindful owner would correct).

Why leave the car in half-baked performance condition when the ways and means to build the car as it was meant to be are readily available? That is vehicular neglect and abuse right there.

Yes in the context of their day. For their time there was no finer sports car in the world.

To me drive a 79 930 to experience 1979 and porsche as it was. History. Historically correct.

Drive a 86 959 to experience 1986 and porsche as it was. History. Historically correct.

Drive a 2018 918 to experience 2018 and porsche as it was. History. Historically correct.

That place in time.

You see once you go modifying you forever destroy what it was and was meant. 1979,1989,1999,2019..

Do you really want a 1977 to drive just like a 2019?

Boring.

Besides the bigger fact you are destroying porsche history.

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Besides the bigger fact you are destroying porsche history.
They are cars, not artifacts. They were built to be driven, and owned, not curated. There are museums and collectors who do such things. The rest of us? We're just along for the ride, so to speak.

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ronnie the destroyer!

has a nice ring to it, no?...
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Ha ha - I destroy that car any way I can think of; the only thing that tempers my destruction is lack of sufficient fundage to go truely, Bello-apeshiit!


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Ha ha - I destroy that car any way I can think of; the only thing that tempers my destruction is lack of sufficient fundage to go truely, Bello-apeshiit!

What's that sticker just in front of the rear wheel?
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Ah.. Supermodel at the strip club..

How regrettable.


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What's that sticker just in front of the rear wheel?
Maybe for that funky joint, Guard Transmission?!?!
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Maybe for that funky joint, Guard Transmission?!?!
Oh, that rubbish. I think he meant stripper working the pole. Supermodels donít run that stuff.
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Yes in the context of their day. For their time there was no finer sports car in the world.

To me drive a 79 930 to experience 1979 and porsche as it was. History. Historically correct.

Drive a 86 959 to experience 1986 and porsche as it was. History. Historically correct.

Drive a 2018 918 to experience 2018 and porsche as it was. History. Historically correct.

That place in time.

You see once you go modifying you forever destroy what it was and was meant. 1979,1989,1999,2019..

Do you really want a 1977 to drive just like a 2019?

Boring.

Besides the bigger fact you are destroying porsche history.
Agreed. I hate people who use modern tires on their classic cars the most. I only keep the original tires with the correct rubber compound on my classic collection. Anything else completely takes away the period correct feel of the drive.
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um, a supermodel at the strip club is not regrettable...
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Oh, that rubbish. I think he meant stripper working the pole. Supermodels don’t run that stuff.
Ha ha - rubbish that was up to the task of +/- 1200 RWHP ?!?!


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Agreed. I hate people who use modern tires on their classic cars the most. I only keep the original tires with the correct rubber compound on my classic collection. Anything else completely takes away the period correct feel of the drive.
Do you run cylinder stored, vintage air (or maybe vintage nitrogen) in those tires as well?!?!
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um, a supermodel at the strip club is not regrettable...
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I’ve got a 55 gallon drum of period correct leaded 1977 gas. $12,911.
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