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Howwas the mileage proven to be fake?
Assumed due to speedo replacement?
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Old 10-30-2019, 02:58 PM
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Howwas the mileage proven to be fake?
Assumed due to speedo replacement?
That's the obvious.

And then the wear and tear on the car that indicates a lot of driving past 29K miles. But it appears that BAT bidders are clueless to common sense. And if a seller says, hey man trust me on this, that's all they need.

Their money, whatevs. Just mind boggling to me.
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A new 911 starts at $100K.

Just saying.
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and?...
$100K is chump change in the 911 world, some of the whom are in the market for the "irrationally exuberant" BAT cars.
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A new 911 starts at $100K.

Just saying.
You wont find a new 992 with a sticker of $100k or less. You'd be very hard pressed to even find one with a sticker of $110k or less. So NO $100k wont buy a new 911.
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Yup, the new 911 is 2-3x a very well sorted G50, trigger alert.

I'm saying those who can buy the former as a second fun car can easily do the same for the latter.
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That's the obvious.



And then the wear and tear on the car that indicates a lot of driving past 29K miles. But it appears that BAT bidders are clueless to common sense. And if a seller says, hey man trust me on this, that's all they need.



Their money, whatevs. Just mind boggling to me.
Which photo numbers show extreme wear?
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Which photo numbers show extreme wear?
check out the carpet next to the clutch pedal in 77 and the shift knob in 79 -- for two examples
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check out the carpet next to the clutch pedal in 77 and the shift knob in 79 -- for two examples

Its interesting.... seems odd that someone would go through all the trouble to cover up any sign of mileage and not replace the shift knob and a piece of carpeting?

I don't know what's the real mileage on that car. I do know I would never pay $55k for it let alone the $70 something the buyer is now asking.

I don't see any buyers of that car at that lofty level anytime soon.
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Great example of BAT exuberance. This was bid to $23,750 ($25,000 with fee).

6 months later, for sale with an asking price of $20K, meaning it might sell for $18-19K.

The exuberance was on both sides. Seller putting in a ridiculously high reserve and bidders willing to bid 30-40% higher than actual value.

And then the eye rolling comments saying even at $25K or $30K it's still a bargain. My God!

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/seattle-2005-porsche-boxster-34l-6-speed/7010848153.html
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Great example of BAT exuberance. This was bid to $23,750 ($25,000 with fee).

6 months later, for sale with an asking price of $20K, meaning it might sell for $18-19K.

The exuberance was on both sides. Seller putting in a ridiculously high reserve and bidders willing to bid 30-40% higher than actual value.

And then the eye rolling comments saying even at $25K or $30K it's still a bargain. My God!

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/seattle-2005-porsche-boxster-34l-6-speed/7010848153.html
That particular seller has sold some outright junk as well as some really standout cars. No matter what, they all get great photography and videos.

I had someone who commented on a car I had on BAT that didn't meet reserve that one photograph had a statue in the background and that prevented bids from hitting reserve. It's an odd place, BAT.
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check out the carpet next to the clutch pedal in 77 and the shift knob in 79 -- for two examples
Another one is photo #100
Lots of scuffing for a deck lid that should not have been opened too much.



https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-porsche-911-carrera-targa-21/
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And this is why I will probably never buy a car on BAT unless it's local... retouched, over filtered glamour shots that will make any turd look nice.

If a seller wants to show off their photography skills, that's fine, but they should also be posting the raw, unfiltered originals to show what is actually being sold.

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That particular seller has sold some outright junk as well as some really standout cars. No matter what, they all get great photography and videos.
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That particular seller has sold some outright junk as well as some really standout cars. No matter what, they all get great photography and videos.

I had someone who commented on a car I had on BAT that didn't meet reserve that one photograph had a statue in the background and that prevented bids from hitting reserve. It's an odd place, BAT.
That seller also does some sound editing or enhancement or mic placement or something. Their videos sound really amazing. And the BAT suckers, err I mean bidders, drool over it, along with the terrific photography. Which would be great if you were hiring a photographer/videographer. Instead they're buying $100K cars in some cases based on pretty pictures and cool sound effects.

I have to hand it to them, they know their market and how to exploit for maximum revenue.
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The 964 track car they polished up and sold as an "outlaw" for 30k profit is one such example...
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Speaking of BaT, this 71T that sold a few days ago floored me. I own the identical twin to this car and figured it would go in the $60-65k range. But $93.5k including commission????
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-porsche-911t-39/

I follow BaT for vehicles that I own and it has it's issues, but if there are people out there willing to overpay like this then I figure $99 with a high reserve is worth the 7 days of BaT comments frustration, when or if I ever decide to sell.
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That seller also does some sound editing or enhancement or mic placement or something. Their videos sound really amazing. And the BAT suckers, err I mean bidders, drool over it, along with the terrific photography. Which would be great if you were hiring a photographer/videographer. Instead they're buying $100K cars in some cases based on pretty pictures and cool sound effects.

I have to hand it to them, they know their market and how to exploit for maximum revenue.
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