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im ready to take a Porsche from a douchebag owner again ..
in 08 Biggly CEO selling me his 996 for 8k cause that was what left on the loan.. lol
gonna be alot deals by summer..

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There will be a pullback, but certainly not market cratering. I agree the toys (RV/boat/GT cars) will probably get hammered.

I do think weíll see a flood of longhood S and turbos hit the market. There are still a ton of speculators that bought into the 2015-16 run up and have been obstinate about the change in market value. This may be the final push to get them to dump the cars. I donít think thereíll be a huge drop considering theyíve already pulled back a lot, but thatís where the deals will be had. Iíd guess good driver turbos finally solidifying in the $60ís and numbers matching Sís starting to top out in the $120ís. All exclusive of the 1% collectors cars.

Rest of air cooledís will swing back a bit, with the biggest hit to the SCís that have seen a big run the last 24 months or so compared to the other G bodies.
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with the biggest hit to the SCís that have seen a big run the last 24 months or so compared to the other G bodies.
The biggest hit will be to the bastard midyears. Last in, first out. They were the last ugly stepchild to rise up, and they will be the first to correct. Except that they are air kewled cars and hence will only go up in value.
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If we see $15k middie and SC targa drivers again I’m in.
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Not this $%!% again.
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I’d be happy swapping my 996 TT for an early 930
I’d consider a 993S in a cool color.
Or I’ll find cash for a nice purple 74.
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It probably has less to do with the actual car and more to do with access to cash during deflationary periods. The economic conditions may push you to sell assets to stay afloat.

Look at the current drawdown of credit lines of some major companies.. Companies like Boeing, Micron, Blackstone, Hilton..

an increase in supply will put downward pressure on market price..
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Hoping pre-2010 prices will come back. It's been hard to stomach buying something I have already owned for 2X or more money.
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BAT will show us the market. My guess, going to be a lot more not meeting reserve. If this virus crisis continues, then you see reserves getting met, as people have to raise funds. Americans have never, in my lifetime at least, had the reputation of being savers. IMO
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I think there will be plenty of nice, fairly priced 911s to choose from in the near future.

Will you feel comfortable taking the plunge..?
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I am a driver rather than collector, and am partial to early 80's SCs. there is really no market precedent for these cars, since no sane person ever actually expected an early 80's SC driver to sell for 35-40k - and no sane person would ever pay that much money for a car with the performance of an early 80's SC. the value increase in these cars has not been driven by hedge funds or big money investors looking to move investment into assets, but rather by people chasing a relatively recent trend for whom $$$ has been cheap and easy (at least since 2011 or 2012).

if driver-quality SC prices dip back down to where they likely belong - which for me is in the low 20s - then we will buy one.
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Lol right? I guess Walt Disney had a dream as well ........and money.
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If you believed that the 10k point run up in the stock market was "real", you likely believed that your real estate was worth 20% more that it actually was in 2008.
Actual value and "market" value are rarely the same.
It's worth what you can sell it for, well advertised, in less than 30 days.
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I'm of a mind that if you need to sell your 911 because you need the money during bad times, you never should've owned it in the first place.
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If you believed that the 10k point run up in the stock market was "real", you likely believed that your real estate was worth 20% more that it actually was in 2008.
Actual value and "market" value are rarely the same.
It's worth what you can sell it for, well advertised, in less than 30 days.
I remember a resurrected thread on MP last summer by Axel84 that was 2-3 years old, when people were telling him on this board his Ruf CTR was worth 150k, not 250k? Last Spring it sold at Paris Sotherby's for 390k! What he said after is -- Not to gloat, a car is only worth what someone is willing to pay!
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I'm of a mind that if you need to sell your 911 because you need the money during bad times, you never should've owned it in the first place.
Yep. Iím gonna refinance my house into a 15 year mortgage. But I wonít be dumping any cars because of this.
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Sugha .... what are your thoughts on a 2018 GT3 touring; declining value?
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I'm of a mind that if you need to sell your 911 because you need the money during bad times, you never should've owned it in the first place.




Exactly. I got my 930 when I could afford it and at a price I could afford. I donít care what itís worth.
Same with the GT3RS. Prices fell to an amount where I could finally afford one. They will probably continue to fall. But I didnít want to risk the chance of them going back up. I wanted the car.

The value of the car doesnít cross my mind while driving.

I fell sorry for people that treat these cars like investments. They are missing the point.


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