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Kansas 10-17-2020 08:57 AM

Whatís this SC worth
 
Looking at an SC. Seller wants a blank offer. History: he bought the car back in 2006 with 135k miles on it. Spent $70k on mechanicals and cosmetics, including a complete engine rebuild and a bare metal re-spray with 3 coats of primer. He let the car sit from 2014 to 2017 and then put another $10k to freshen everything back up: brakes, new tires, AC compressor, sump pump work, and shifter bushings. For some reason, the odometer was replaced when the engine was rebuilt. It shows 11,000 miles. The big drawback on the car in that the roof has some minor paint imperfections or contaminants and Iím not crazy about the replaced odometer. He has all the documentation on all the work. Pics:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1602953673.jpg
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kc911s 10-17-2020 08:59 AM

Probably not what the seller thinks it’s worth.

Mixed76 10-17-2020 09:04 AM

How's it drive?

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Kansas 10-17-2020 09:08 AM

Haven’t driven it. I plan to do an exhaustive PPI. But just wanted to get some opinions, based on the information being what it is, before I throw him an offer. I’m out of state.

Mixed76 10-17-2020 09:13 AM

For me, no more than 45 and I'd be more interested in ones that are 30-35. SC is a great car but there are lots out there. If seller is asking you to set the price he hasn't done any homework and he's not going to like what the market says I think.

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Kansas 10-17-2020 09:16 AM

I offered him 40k 2 years ago and he accepted but then he decided he liked the car too much and didn’t want to sell, period. He has since put $10k into it.

B.W.Jones 10-17-2020 10:03 AM

Still worth $35-40k to my mind.

NYNick 10-17-2020 10:36 AM

I have a feeling the seller is fishing. Having spent $80K in 14 years on a car that was worth $15K or less when he bought it doesn't sound like an astute investment to me.

Replacing speedos isn't uncommon. They break. I had one sent out once by my shop and he asked me what I wanted it to read when it came back.:rolleyes: You've got a TMU on your hands.

Look at all the docs carefully. Shops almost always write down the mileage when they take a car in and you can usually get a pretty good idea looking at receipts. Plus, you want to know what added up to $70K and how it added up.

If all that work checks out I'd offer him the $40k again. It's worth it with all that work already performed. A great car that needs nothing is unusual.

sugarwood 10-17-2020 11:26 AM

What a gorgeous car.
If you buy it, just reset the odo back to 146k.
Make sure it matches the CarFax.

Can you itemize the $70k spent?
If he's got the receipts to back it up,
I bet he can get $60k or $70k or $80k or more for it.

Matt Monson 10-17-2020 12:08 PM

Beautiful car. One of my personal favorite SC colors, and has all the bright work and polished center Fuchs to match. $45-50k all day long.

Kansas 10-17-2020 12:09 PM

Yes, I can itemize the receipts. He emailed me 20 pages of documentation.

Macroni 10-17-2020 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 11067968)
What a gorgeous car.
I bet he can get $60k or $70k or $80k or more for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 11068000)
Beautiful car. $45-50k all day long.

I am in the $50,000 to $60,000 camp; if the car documentation checks out and it does not need any additional work.

NYNick 10-17-2020 01:18 PM

I missed the year. 78 or 79?

I'm thrilled with these high estimates.

pmax 10-17-2020 02:00 PM

Still at best, an excellent driver.

$50K tops.

Seller's wasting your time regardless.

Kansas 10-17-2020 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nynick (Post 11068076)
i missed the year. 78 or 79?

I'm thrilled with these high estimates.

Ď79

kc911s 10-17-2020 05:28 PM

Makes me excited about my 78 sc with all these numbers being thrown around!

Macroni 10-18-2020 02:22 AM

re-read I am moving to $50 max

Fairview 10-18-2020 03:06 AM

I had a 1978 in Petrol blue with a tan interior, loved it, so I hope this checks out for you.

On the other hand, if I were buying this example, my very first official acts would be to:
a)replace the shift knob with an original,
b)send the gauges off for a good cleaning,
c)buy the correct floor mats,
d)pull the driver seat and have a professional seat shop get the excess stuffing out of it,
e) figure out how to remove the non-factory window tint,
and that is just a list based on these few photos!

The point is, even if it passes a PPI, any of us fanatic Porsche people will figure out how to spend another $5000. I figure you are one of us since the paint is already bugging you....so add f) block sand and buff paint to remove imperfections.

The lists we have seldom end.

sugarwood 10-18-2020 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Fairview (Post 11068511)
b)send the gauges off for a good cleaning,
.

What are you seeing that no one else is ?

sugarwood 10-18-2020 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kc911s (Post 11068332)
Makes me excited about my 78 sc with all these numbers being thrown around!

Do you also have $70k worth of service receipts for your car, including an engine rebuild?

jcvass 10-18-2020 05:00 AM

Sc
 
nice car . Id say 40ish if you really like it .

Fairview 10-18-2020 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 11068559)
What are you seeing that no one else is ?

Am I the only one seeing the white fog inside the two left gauges? Shows up in photo from left door area. That’s why I suggested sending gauges off for cleaning.

Fairview 10-18-2020 05:49 AM

Here you go


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jhynesrockmtn 10-18-2020 06:12 AM

Looks like a great car. I love those colors. How bad is the roof paint? Does it point to poor prep for the other parts of the car? That would be my biggest concern. People can spend a ton of $'s on repairs and paint but if the folks who did the work were not top quality then........ We had a local consignment place with a great looking mid year car a while back. They were advertising it with an expensive rebuilt motor and a bunch of other repairs/updates. When a buddy looked at the documentation it turned out the Motor Meister had done the engine. He walked away.

NYNick 10-18-2020 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fairview (Post 11068625)
Am I the only one seeing the white fog inside the two left gauges? Shows up in photo from left door area. Thatís why I suggested sending gauges off for cleaning.

It's common. The fog comes and goes. Happens to mine as well.

Kansas 10-18-2020 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jcvass (Post 11068578)
nice car . Id say 40ish if you really like it .

The seller just got back to me. He said heíd do $40k even. I really donít think Iím losing anything w that kind of deal.

NYNick 10-18-2020 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kansas (Post 11068893)
The seller just got back to me. He said heíd do $40k even. I really donít think Iím losing anything w that kind of deal.

Get your deposit down ASAP and do your PPI. Could be a good deal if everything checks out.

Don't wait. You could lose it.

walt 10-18-2020 12:30 PM

Nice buy at 40K. Don't waste time.

pmax 10-18-2020 01:14 PM

Can't wait for the next twist and turn of this saga !

C'mon man ! Get on with it !

Kansas 10-18-2020 01:31 PM

Doing a PPI next week, and securing funds for the sell of my 993 to make this purchase. Gonna miss the 993, but got to enjoy it for a couple of years anyways.

1979-930 10-18-2020 03:54 PM

Thatís a great color and price.


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NYNick 10-18-2020 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kansas (Post 11069129)
Doing a PPI next week, and securing funds for the sell of my 993 to make this purchase. Gonna miss the 993, but got to enjoy it for a couple of years anyways.

Once again, I must've missed the part that you're selling a 993 to buy an SC. That, to me, is an entirely different decision making process, and not one to be taken lightly.

Have you thought this through? What kind of 993 and why are you selling it? In my mind, that's a head scratcher unless it has big money needs.

Kansas 10-18-2020 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NYNick (Post 11069291)
Once again, I must've missed the part that you're selling a 993 to buy an SC. That, to me, is an entirely different decision making process, and not one to be taken lightly.

Have you thought this through? What kind of 993 and why are you selling it? In my mind, that's a head scratcher unless it has big money needs.

Itís a silver 6spd coupe with 116k miles. Iíve been offered $48.5k. Itís never had any engine or valve guide work. And thatís what worries me. I fear big bills in the future. The car seems to run great now, but I do worry. The SC at least has had a ton of work done on it. Maybe itís not a good idea.

Matt Monson 10-18-2020 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NYNick (Post 11069291)
Once again, I must've missed the part that you're selling a 993 to buy an SC. That, to me, is an entirely different decision making process, and not one to be taken lightly.

Have you thought this through? What kind of 993 and why are you selling it? In my mind, that's a head scratcher unless it has big money needs.

Thereís a whole separate thread on it. Dead man walking...

Kansas 10-18-2020 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 11069359)
Thereís a whole separate thread on it. Dead man walking...

Can u send me a link?

Matt Monson 10-18-2020 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kansas (Post 11069366)
Can u send me a link?

You lost your own thread? :confused:SmileWavy

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/1075153-sell-my-high-mileage-993-48k.html

Kansas 10-18-2020 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 11069389)

Ok, either I just woke or Iím drunk. Feel like an idiot now. Thought you were referring to someone elseís thread dealing w selling a 993 to buy an SC.

NYNick 10-19-2020 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 11069359)
Thereís a whole separate thread on it. Dead man walking...

Oh, THAT thread. Yes, I read and followed that one.

To the OP: the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know. Maybe you should spend $500 on doing a thorough leak down, inspection, PPI etc on your own car to see what it needs or might need. I maintain selling a 993 to buy an SC might not be the best idea.

Kansas 10-19-2020 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NYNick (Post 11069661)
Oh, THAT thread. Yes, I read and followed that one.

To the OP: the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know. Maybe you should spend $500 on doing a thorough leak down, inspection, PPI etc on your own car to see what it needs or might need. I maintain selling a 993 to buy an SC might not be the best idea.

Way ahead of ya. Thatís exactly what Iím doing. Iím have a compression and leak down test scheduled on Thursday. Wish I could check the valve guides also, but the shop didnít seem to think it was necessary.

Reno775 10-19-2020 07:03 AM

The sellers price is way more realistic than I guessed heíd be. With 80k into it, it better damn well be ready to go


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