Also, the high bidder on the 911/83 engine.

It may be a person who is a shill for the Seller.

I think it is someone screwing with the seller. He probably bid a million bucks with no intention of ever buying. This way, no buys a fake car and as penalty, he doesn't get to sell his motor either. Probably a restamped blank 7R case anyway. Like Robin Hood for Ebay...

edit...:D

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User ID Bid Amount Date of bid

tgoodtbtr ( 0 ) US $101,500.00 Jun-23-06 18:16:39 PDT


amoco ( 265) US $101,400.00 Jun-25-06 17:58:23 PDT


wbpjr ( 92) US $101,000.00 Jun-23-06 17:44:32 PDT


tgoodtbtr ( 0 ) US $95,000.00 Jun-23-06 18:16:24 PDT


tgoodtbtr ( 0 ) US $85,000.00 Jun-23-06 18:16:09 PDT


crpg3 ( 74) US $75,000.00 Jun-23-06 11:57:08 PDT


paul7293 ( 4 ) US $55,000.00 Jun-23-06 15:54:23 PDT


edwip930 ( 28) US $50,000.00 Jun-23-06 04:57:37 PDT


paul7293 ( 4 ) US $35,000.00 Jun-23-06 06:15:01 PDT


paul7293 ( 4 ) US $30,000.00 Jun-23-06 05:15:09 PDT


paul7293 ( 4 ) US $27,500.00 Jun-23-06 05:14:37 PDT


paul7293 ( 4 ) US $25,000.00 Jun-23-06 05:09:24 PDT


paul7293 ( 4 ) US $20,000.00 Jun-23-06 05:02:59 PDT


paul7293 ( 4 ) US $15,000.00 Jun-23-06 04:53:15 PDT


tomboyea123 ( 41) US $10,000.00 Jun-23-06 03:25:11 PDT


paul7293 ( 4 ) US $10,000.00 Jun-23-06 04:52:38 PDT

Yep, that's the idea.:D

Never buy a car or trust a seller on Ebay without a certified inspection.

educate me..You build a light weight race car with thin sheetmetal and a sunroof?

no Porsche did. Some like sunroofs and will suffer the compromise.

I hear there's even a crazy guy back East who has a targa based race car with big brakes and a 38L RS motor in it....

I dunno about others, but I feel my enthusiasm waning...too much rottenness out there in the early 911 world these days. The value of the longnoses spiraling upward wasn't all a good thing, was it? This is why I find myself hoping the price bubble breaks, lessening the motive for VIN tampering.

Higher values are a two edged sword.

High values motivates those that own these cars to restore or rebuild those cars that would otherwise languish in a depressed market (which will happen again). In my mind this outweighs the negative stuff like fake cars which, I think, are a very small minority in the universe of early 911s.

But a minority nonetheless.

And you'd be wise to check out the inspector...I know of one I would never trust.

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I like that: tgoodtbtr = too good to be true?

:D

According to my docs, the engine number should be 663040 and the transmission number should be 7830399. I'd like to see photos of the engine and transmission number from both of the "reported" #406s. I would also like to see the sheetmetal in both of them measured. I'm sure that will show who is the clone and who is not.

-Wayne

Ok now this is getting interesting.
The Car in question is about 25 minutes north of my house.
If I email the guy and ask to see it in person and he agrees.
I figure the Engine & transmission Number would not to hard to get but sheetmetal measurements? Is this done with a caliper?

Wayne, I'm glad to see that you are on this. If I didn't post this earlier, a HUGE tip of my hat for your work on the stolen engine recovery as well. :)

you can test sheetmetal with your fingers.

goat
go to your carrera and push down in the center of the roof- doesn't cave in does it? go to the front trunk panel behind the gas tank (the one holding the power brake booster and a/c box cover) and try to twist it with your fingers- almost no give at all. When you go see this yellow car (IF he lets you!) try this again on the roof and the front trunk panel- only lighweight paneled cars will allow the give we are looking for- the roof will cave in almost 2 inches in a snap while the trunk panel will give about 1/2 " twist

i am in contact with the seller of the real #406 and also a friend that had inspected the yellow one, when it was in germany, for a purchase. Will get details back from both soon.
So our group CSI effort can help expose the phoney one!

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