A couple of cars at reasonable prices - Thoughts?

[Patrick3000]

What do you guys think of the these two, condition and price?

1976 Porsche 911S for sale


1973 911T Sunroof Coupe Project with a sorted 3.0L Motor and Oil Cooling Lines!

[MrBonus]

I would be all over that '73 if I had the time, patience, and money assuming the body is largely straight.

[Matt Monson]

He needs to publish the vin on the '73 since he says it is really a '76.

[blau911]

Both of the cars you posted may be cheap up front, but they could easily become rabbit holes and cost many thousands to make right. There is not enough info about either car to know what needs they have. When looking at these types of cars, you need to ask yourself what the worst case scenario is (i.e. total engine and tranny rebuild, bare metal strip and repaint, extensive rust repair, etc...). Then ask yourself if the car you are contemplating putting all of that money into, has some type of intrinsic value (i.e. is it a limited production matching numbers car, unique color or ownership history, and if it is going to be your dream car in the end - or a money pit. If it's going to be your dream car, make sure you have more than enough budgeted, make sure you are prepared to go without driving the car for at least a year while the resto is going on and the money is flying out the door, then proceed with caution.

[X JBM X]

i would be willing to wager the 76S is sold already. that was wayy to cheap a price for a running, driving 911. even if it needs work, and even if it's a middie.

[blau911]

Originally Posted by X JBM X

i would be willing to wager the 76S is sold already. that was wayy to cheap a price for a running, driving 911. even if it needs work, and even if it's a middie.

Maybe, but don't forget that a good rebuild on a 2.7 motor amd CIS system can easily run $12-15k. Then you own a car which still needs substantial paint and interior work for $24-27k - and the meter is still running...
In comparison, you can still buy a nice no excuses SC for less, and avoid the hassles.

[metzger]

Originally Posted by blau911

Maybe, but don't forget that a good rebuild on a 2.7 motor amd CIS system can easily run $12-15k. Then you own a car which still needs substantial paint and interior work for $24-27k - and the meter is still running...
In comparison, you can still buy a nice no excuses SC for less, and avoid the hassles.

The '76 is still available, I just received interior pictures a couple hours ago. The red interior looks great, just needs a little cleaning up. Dash looks like it may have some kind of cover on it as the red on top isn't the same shade as the rest. I came to the same conclusion as above, I'd be in it for SC money in the end. Could potentially be a great driver for cheap if it checks out though. If it were still silver I'd be in.

[COLB]

Originally Posted by metzger

The '76 is still available, I just received interior pictures a couple hours ago. The red interior looks great, just needs a little cleaning up. Dash looks like it may have some kind of cover on it as the red on top isn't the same shade as the rest. I came to the same conclusion as above, I'd be in it for SC money in the end. Could potentially be a great driver for cheap if it checks out though. If it were still silver I'd be in.

Silver with Red interior is one of the best combinations in my view -- Classic Porsche. It may never be the "hippest" color at any given time, but is timeless in its appeal.

Both these cars offer dilemmas or opportunities, depending on the point of view. Yes, of course -- buy the best car you can afford, because buying a cheap car needing a ton of work often is an exercise in false economy.

However, if you want a Porsche 911, and are interested in a "hobby" car to hone or exercise your mechanical skills, you could do worse. Not everyone has $25k to spend at once on a car that is probably going to be seasonally driven.

Sure, it may cost you more in the long run to buy a project. But if you only have $14-15k to buy-in, either car could offer value as a fun driver that can be a rolling restoration that can be built over time. Get in for under $12k, and budget a couple of grand for immediate run, shift, steer, and stop needs. Then work on the cosmetics a bit at a time.

For a checkbook owner, these are bad bets. For a guy willing to do his own work, there is a chance to polish some money into a neglected car. You may not break even, but you might if you are diligent in the used part marketplace, and willing to put in the time.

Or save your pennies until you have $25k, and hope that SC or early Carrera you have your eye on isn't worth $40k by the time you get there.

[metzger]

Silver on red, I'd drive it as-is while sorting out the mechanicals, no question. Red on red, I just wouldn't want to drive it until it were silver again. That's just me though. It should be a great buy for someone out there. I'm too superficial.

[Dan J]

The 76 is a reasonable price Yes you will have to work on it but running complete 911's in the low teens are history now Buy it, drive it, fix it repeat

[COLB]

Originally Posted by Dan J

The 76 is a reasonable price Yes you will have to work on it but running complete 911's in the low teens are history now Buy it, drive it, fix it repeat

Someone agrees.

Red '76 sold almost immediately -- to the first person who contacted the seller at full asking price of $12k.

Well bought from the looks of it.

[metzger]

1974 Porsche 911

[Matt Monson]

<a href="http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/4374047380.html" target="_blank">1974 Porsche 911</a>

Cool color and a good year. Who ever thought we would say '74 was a good year? Wish the description and pictures were better.

[metzger]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Cool color and a good year. Who ever thought we would say '74 was a good year? Wish the description and pictures were better.

I'm dumb for not looking into it, but it just doesn't strike me as being what I want. Looks great though.

Here's another good price on an SC with some questionable additions. 1980 PORSCHE 911 SC

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by metzger

I'm dumb for not looking into it, but it just doesn't strike me as being what I want. Looks great though.

Here's another good price on an SC with some questionable additions. 1980 PORSCHE 911 SC

I'd walk up with $12k no problem, as long as the mechanicals were sound. Nice color, reasonable condition, and all those "add-ons" can be reversed fairly easily.

[Uncle Enzo]

I picked up mint 76 w/ fresh 2.7RS built motor, paint and interior for 16k. This undocumented 76 seems a bit high @12k.

[Matt Monson]

Uncle Enzo,
How long ago was that?

Meztger,
Wasn't really suggesting that was the car for you. That '74 is right up my alley but I promised the wife that I would both get her a new baby hauler and do some work on my existing projects before I let anymore follow me home. And I've started Cayman shopping. Time to get my racing license.

[metzger]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Uncle Enzo,
How long ago was that?

Meztger,
Wasn't really suggesting that was the car for you. That '74 is right up my alley but I promised the wife that I would both get her a new baby hauler and do some work on my existing projects before I let anymore follow me home. And I've started Cayman shopping. Time to get my racing license.

I almost sent the '74 to you before posting it, but wasn't sure if you were in the market or not. Looked like something that would fit your collection.

[Matt Monson]

I need no temptation, though thanks for thinking of me. For me to jump on a '74 it would need to be down in the $8-9k range.

That SC looks like a decent car. That front bumper goes away really easily.

[COLB]

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6

I'd walk up with $12k no problem, as long as the mechanicals were sound. Nice color, reasonable condition, and all those "add-ons" can be reversed fairly easily.

I really like that color. I gotta say, the wrap on that Momo wheel is hideous!

Hard to go wrong at that price, and seller sounds motivated.

I like the ad for no other reason than this classic craigslist quirk:

Asking $15,000 but will accept first $12,000

If you state in your ad that you'll take the first $12k, then your asking $12k...not $15k!