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Damn Sugar, harshing itzas melon. Hes been showing us cars for a couple years learning his way around. Hes not asking for a free lunch.
It's all good he has good point.

I got lucky with my first 912 but had to sell it and got lucky to make a few bucks being a somewhat noob to the aircooled club.
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I am there with Sugar. It is just the facts.
Great deals are snapped up in moments from listing, even if a sympathetic Pelican put Itza in touch with the smoking deal ad it will already be gone by the time he gets to it.
And if some one contacts me with a car and wants to sell it for 2/3 of the market price, and that's what itza wants, I would advice them to sell it for more and not leave money on the table. If they insisted on giving away $10,000 in value on a car, I am afraid I would tell a closer friend about it than some random stranger on the internet or buy it myself.
Sorry itza, no help from me other than my opinion on market correct price's or potential problems in cars you find.
All good, appreciate the honesty & help with my finds.
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Thanks for the link, that's exactly what I'm looking for.

Over the years there were exact same cars as that one for 18-20k and some with zero issues (according to seller) but they sold quick.


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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but for under $20k you can get a very nice 914 that's ready to drive and enjoy....and you'll still be in a classic air cooled Porsche, and prices will only go up.
True, once I drive a 914 that might possibly get me in one.

I just can't see myself getting any other car besides a 911 to hold on to for a long period of time.

I've had many cool cars that I've put work into and sold later to pay for my tuition over the years so since I'm finally done with school and steady job, I want to find something to build on and enjoy.
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The 911 is 'the' car to go for, if you can afford it.

Keep up the work, it looks like you're doing everything 'right' to get something lucky, just need to be patient!
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For your consideration:

FS: 1984 Carrera coupe / red - spoilers - 16" fuchs nice driver $28k

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FS: 1984 Carrera coupe / red - spoilers - 16" fuchs nice driver $28k

Well help you make it right.
I came back to the thread to post the same link haha

Perfect example of what I'm looking for but on the higher side of 20k

Will talk to the seller and see what we can deal with.

The amount of them I found in the 28-34k range was plentiful but this one is pretty decent..
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FS: 1984 Carrera coupe / red - spoilers - 16" fuchs nice driver $28k

Well help you make it right.
The SALVAGE could be a problem, depending on what state it is going to be registered in, and it has an SC front valance & fogs, possible crash car
Still worth a long look if it can be registered the home state, and checked for cash damage.
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The SALVAGE could be a problem, depending on what state it is going to be registered in, and it has an SC front valance & fogs, possible crash car
Still worth a long look if it can be registered the home state, and checked for cash damage.
Yes, I wouldn't want it coming back as a salvage title in OH since that would require me to pass a police inspection and they would be wondering what I replaced etc

It coming back as a rebuilt-salvage would be OK
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It clearly states that the title is clean. I’ve never seen a dmv pull a title history search. I walk in, they look over the other state’s title, and proceed.
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with entry level 911SCs at $30k, and likely to have some big repair bills down the road, ...someone who wants to be driving and air-cooled Porsche, and is on a budget, should seriously look at a 914 like this one on BAT. It will be under $25k, and you'll spend more time driving it than staring at it in the garage because of needed repairs.. These cars are good value, and prices are going up..... and you'll even be welcomed at Luftgekuhlt. And this model is the desireable GA motor 2.0...

I have no affiliation with this car... just giving my opinion, 'cuz you asked


https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-porsche-914-2-0-8/
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^wise words. If someone offered me a driver 74 914 2.0 and $15k they could drive away in my 86 coupe this afternoon.
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It clearly states that the title is clean. Ive never seen a dmv pull a title history search. I walk in, they look over the other states title, and proceed.
The seller says "Clean State of IL title but by law declared 'SALVAGE'. " but you can't have it both ways. He his playing loose with words.

Perhaps no lien, but Salvage is Salvage. In most states a 'Salvage' title needs to be turned into a 'Rebuilt' title after an inspection where the Police are looking for receipts for the replacement parts. They are more concerned with the use of stolen parts, not really safety or the quality of repair.

California has insurance auctions where California DEALERS can buy cars with Salvage titles, but out of state buyers only get Scrap titles which can not be rebuilt in most other states.
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with entry level 911SCs at $30k, and likely to have some big repair bills down the road, ...someone who wants to be driving and air-cooled Porsche, and is on a budget, should seriously look at a 914 like this one on BAT. It will be under $25k, and you'll spend more time driving it than staring at it in the garage because of needed repairs.. These cars are good value, and prices are going up..... and you'll even be welcomed at Luftgekuhlt. And this model is the desireable GA motor 2.0...

I have no affiliation with this car... just giving my opinion, 'cuz you asked


https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-porsche-914-2-0-8/
Thanks for the link but those 914's really don't interest me right now.

I see many people are jumping on them so maybe they are the next car to be hyped up but the look of it is umm..interesting.. and if i got one it wouldn't remain stock for long

I'm looking for a 911 and I think I might have a plan with a local guy.

You guys probably wont like it but it will let me tinker around while still owning one.

Will update later if magic happens.


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The seller says "Clean State of IL title but by law declared 'SALVAGE'. " but you can't have it both ways. He his playing loose with words.

Perhaps no lien, but Salvage is Salvage. In most states a 'Salvage' title needs to be turned into a 'Rebuilt' title after an inspection where the Police are looking for receipts for the replacement parts. They are more concerned with the use of stolen parts, not really safety or the quality of repair.

California has insurance auctions where California DEALERS can buy cars with Salvage titles, but out of state buyers only get Scrap titles which can not be rebuilt in most other states.
Yea Matt M, Matt D is right.

There are many states that don't have SALVAGE titles and some states that kinda wash tittles up.

There have been 5-10 instances where me or someone I know bought a car without knowing it had salvage history so the DMV saw the records and changed the CLEAN title to a REBUILT salvage. Was pretty sh#itty.

One way to get around this is, go to a DMV that doesn't have there records updated or check history when they transfer the title.

It's not really ideal to do so and frowned upon but I've saw it done.

Anyway, that 84 Porsche would likely come back as a rebuilt title which ins't anything crazy.
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The seller says "Clean State of IL title but by law declared 'SALVAGE'. " but you can't have it both ways. He his playing loose with words.

Perhaps no lien, but Salvage is Salvage. In most states a 'Salvage' title needs to be turned into a 'Rebuilt' title after an inspection where the Police are looking for receipts for the replacement parts. They are more concerned with the use of stolen parts, not really safety or the quality of repair.

California has insurance auctions where California DEALERS can buy cars with Salvage titles, but out of state buyers only get Scrap titles which can not be rebuilt in most other states.
Not all states are the same. California issues a rebuilt from salvage title. That's what my 74 is. Colorado just calls that a salvage title.

Other states clear the salvage status once the car is rebuilt and henceforth the title appears clear.

My read of it is the seller is trying to be transparent and honest that the car was written off as salvage earlier in it's life and wants the buyer to know that even though the title is clean today the car has a history. A shady dealer could buy this car, do a bit of refurbishment, and never make such a disclosure. We don't know for sure because none of us has called him and not all states handle this process the same.

Anyone seriously interested in the car should just call up the seller and talk about it instead of speculating about it on the internet.
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Yea Matt M, Matt D is right.

There are many states that don't have SALVAGE titles and some states that kinda wash tittles up.

There have been 5-10 instances where me or someone I know bought a car without knowing it had salvage history so the DMV saw the records and changed the CLEAN title to a REBUILT salvage. Was pretty sh#itty.

One way to get around this is, go to a DMV that doesn't have there records updated or check history when they transfer the title.

It's not really ideal to do so and frowned upon but I've saw it done.

Anyway, that 84 Porsche would likely come back as a rebuilt title which ins't anything crazy.
Read my comments above. I am not wrong in what I am saying. I am in fact saying exactly what you are. People seem to be mixing up a car with salvage history and a car with a salvage title. I see ZERO risk of what Byron is talking about on a car like this because it does NOT have a salvage title.
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Read my comments above. I am not wrong in what I am saying. I am in fact saying exactly what you are. People seem to be mixing up a car with salvage history and a car with a salvage title. I see ZERO risk of what Byron is talking about on a car like this because it does NOT have a salvage title.
Gotcha, you are right the current title is clean due to it being in a state that might not issue salvage/rebuilt titles.

But bringing it back to home state and registering it with an honest mindset it would be a salvage/rebuilt vehicle.

Basically it having salvage/totaled the vehicle out history makes it a salvage vehicle. Titles don't really make much difference on these cars anyway.

Some clean titles have far worse damage that never gets reported so it doesn't bother me. Just would have to inspect properly.
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I've been saying this for years, the condition as the car sits today is the most important thing to consider. If you are ok with that, then you need to look at current cost versus future resale. If the deal it good enough to offset what the future may bring the car is a buy.

One reason that S titles get such a value hit on newer cars is because most banks and credit unions won't offer financing on one. A bank will look across state lines to see a salvage history on a car. A DMV generally won't.
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Being a 3.2 car has the value over others in the same price range, doesn't hurt to look, talk to the owner, check the laws in you state. That $8K over your budget could save you a lot of $$$ on a $20k project. If I were in the market, I'd check it out.
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I've been saying this for years, the condition as the car sits today is the most important thing to consider. If you are ok with that, then you need to look at current cost versus future resale. If the deal it good enough to offset what the future may bring the car is a buy.

One reason that S titles get such a value hit on newer cars is because most banks and credit unions won't offer financing on one. A bank will look across state lines to see a salvage history on a car. A DMV generally won't.
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Being a 3.2 car has the value over others in the same price range, doesn't hurt to look, talk to the owner, check the laws in you state. That $8K over your budget could save you a lot of $$$ on a $20k project. If I were in the market, I'd check it out.
Cool, good points.

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