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Buying my 1st 911 in Japan - input on this '89?

I'm an American living in Japan, finally ready to buy my long dreamed about air cooled 911. I hope that my search will provide some interest and amusement, and in return will be grateful for any advice.

My budget is currently around $45,000 / 5,000,000 yen. I may be able to increase it but hope not to. In the Japanese marketplace this is one of the more intriguing cars in my price range: an '89 in Murano Green with a "bordeaux" interior according to the ad. 64,000km or just under 40,000 miles.

[url=http://www.goo-net.com/usedcar/spread/goo/15/700020206530161104001.html#]http://www.goo-net.com/usedcar/spread/goo/15/700020206530161104001.html/url]

At 5.66M yen, it's about $50k, but I think they'll take less. That price includes all taxes, biannual inspection fees, etc.

It's had a front end accident and the hood alignment is not perfect. The selling dealer thinks it can be improved, but I'd like to get a body shop's advice. The accident happened two owners ago, and then the most recent owner traded this car for a 964 sold by the dealer. The dealer is very confident in the driving characteristics, volunteering that is feels great even at speed.

The dealer is happy to send it out for a PPI, and I expect them to agree to a body shop consultation as well.

I'm not looking for an investment - I want a car to drive and love for years to come. So, an accident history is not a deal breaker as long as it hasn't harmed the integrity and drivability of the car.

I really like the the exterior color and it's relative rarity, but wonder about how it works with the interior. But looks aside, I don't have the experience to know what other flaws or issues might jump out to someone more knowledgeable. That's where I'll be grateful for any advice about how to proceed (or not) with this car!

Thanks for reading and I look forward to your comments.
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Your link is bad, but Damn that color!!! Love it.
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This should work:
http://www.goo-net/usedcar/spread/goo/15/700020206530161104001.html

Yeah, I love the color - unusual, not flashy but not boring. Considered a well cared for '78 SC in Guards Red but just couldn't feel it.

But that Murano Green is paired with a burgundy interior. The dealer of course says it looks awesome , but I think I have to see it in person.
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Really unique color. The accident damage is what I would be concerned with. Was it documented? What was repainted? I've also never seen that style of back seats before. A thorough PPI should expose most issues if there any. Make sure the engine/transmission is healthy of course. $45k would be a great deal in the US for that car if everything checks out.
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Great color great year. I think the interior combo works. Better than tan will you ever be bringing stateside? Think about your state's emission standards and any hurdles you may have
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Also love the interior, but seconds Specialty's questions.
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Love the color combo! The japan only rear seat is neat, they also have another style rear seat that is also a little different.
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Love the color combo! The japan only rear seat is neat, they also have another style rear seat that is also a little different.
Yeah my '76 C3 from Japan has an interesting rear seat "saddle" among several other Japan only features. I noticed this one has the unique little half disc around the ignition as well.
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I love this color! Is it just me or does the interior carpeting look really worn and faded (under the black mats)? You can really see it in several pics around the seat and especially on the right of the gas pedal and door?
I would also get a pic of the dashboard in front of the steering wheel bc I swear nearly every older Porsche Ive seen has cracks on the dash.
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Thanks for all the comments. I had my second conversation with the dealer today and learned a little more about the car and the previous owner. He had the car for 2 years, then traded it to the dealer last November for a 964 Tiptronic so that his wife, who can't drive stick, could drive as well!

@specialtyoneinc - No records from the accident or the repair, and the previous owner elected to buy the car based on overall condition despite the lack of info, according to the dealer.

@amadajg - The dealer assures me that the carpets are unfaded and in good shape and simply didn't photograph accurately. There are no cracks anywhere in the dash.

I will ask as much as possible by email and phone, then arrange a PPI and body shop consultation if I'm satisfied with what I'm hearing and seeing. The dealer is waiting for my email with a number of questions, and is ready to send scans of all maintenance records as well. In my experience dealers here of course want to make a sale, but are generally quite honest about condition and history. I'm sure there are shady dealers out there, but they seem to be the exception.

I appreciate everyone's comments, and am reassured that no one is pointing out glaring problems or deviations from what we'd expect to see. I'll continue my due diligence and keep you posted.
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It's really beautiful and I hope it pans out. That color and model is an eye-catcher for sure! Good luck with it!
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Fantastic color - but the accident would be a dealbreaker for me. I think that you will regret buying a car that has been in an accident. The add-ons tell me that the car has been tracked.

Good luck!
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Sorry, I don't express the optimism that my fellow Pelican members are.

We see very detailed and close up photos of the ashtray, the key, the AC pipe, but nothing under the front carpet where the accident happened? Why not any photos under the carpet and around the battery/spare/front well area? What's up in this area where the accident happened? That's what I'd like to see.
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My 2 cents, have you looked at the classifieds at 911 magazine in Japan? I see lots of ads there.

This shop seems to sell premium 80s German cars
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It's a great color and all, but unless 911's are extremely rare in Japan I would not pay 50k for it. Looks like it was ridden hard put away wet. Hood alignment is pretty bad. Front bumper needs to go back to stock. I would want a PPI to go over every inch of the car. I'm sure it will be a nice 911 with a little TLC, but try to get them down..
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Thanks for all the great comments and sorry to not check in recently. The car that prompted this thread seems to be falling out of the running. Over a week ago I emailed the dealer a detailed but reasonable set of due diligence questions. They sent a polite reply asking for a little time to answer, but that was it until I called at the start of this week. They apologized and said they'd be in touch, but nothing yet. I believe in not forcing things to happen. They know I'm a serious buyer, and whatever the reason that they can't help make the sale happen, so be it.

@jorijori - Yes, I visited Garage Current to see this beautiful 996:
http://www.garagecurrent.com/porsche/996/903/
Actually that visit convinced me that I'm really looking for an air-cooled 911, but they had nothing in stock in my price range. Seem like a really good shop though.

@black_falcon - I don't disagree with your assessment. That said, the pool of decent air-cooled 911s at "affordable" prices is pretty small here. Buying in the US is an option, but will add about $10,000 (and a couple of months) to ship and get the car on the road here. Considering that, paying a slight premium for a car already in Japan starts to seem more reasonable.

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Next up: Going on Monday to see this 1980 SC that just came on the market:

http://www.goo-net.com/usedcar/spread/goo/15/0900170901W4000111016.html

http://www.garage911.co.jp/newhp/stock/80_sc_g_93.htm

No accident history, no rust, original color, reputable specialist dealer. While it's not the way to choose a car, I loved the color at first sight.

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Great car how much US approx? Dont worry Im not a prospective buyer. Gotta love those Japanese only(I think) speedometers
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5.1 million yen with all taxes and a fresh biannual inspection, equals $46,000.

For those who don't know, all cars in Japan go through a fairly rigorous inspection called "shaken" which covers much (but not all) of what a PPI would. A test drive, good leakdown numbers, and fresh "shaken" pretty much assure you that you're getting a solid car, as far as I can tell.
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Next up: Going on Monday to see this 1980 SC that just came on the market:

★충매솔○復瑜램 復瑜램 911SC≥Д議샵르묍괏괌쳉歷탉聯價窈蚊가샵磎책 ○

911 SC

No accident history, no rust, original color, reputable specialist dealer. While it's not the way to choose a car, I loved the color at first sight.

That color (Viper Grn?) - buy it - now!!!!!!
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