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Too bad TW. I sold my 6 speed 09 TT Cab less than a year ago. It was a low mileage sweetheart.

But I found it a waste to own. On ramps? Really? I'm owning a supercar for the experience of on ramps? Or high speed corners at 90 in a 35 MPH zone? Tracking it was fun, but I couldn't come to terms with balling an $80K car into a wall at speed.

It's gone. My classics are all the fun I need for now.
I get it, but the arguments that kind of go like "waste to have that much power on the street" really fall flat with me. This is not a practical hobby. I have basic transportation covered, and I have 2 drivers with 12 high performance cars in the house not counting utilitarian cars.

I own and frequently drive cars up to 1000hp on the street - my 2011 Camaro with Vortech V7Ysi makes 850whp. It's a blast and it drives like a lamb until you floor it.

The 2007 turbo is getting Tial Xona 3076 turbos as well as cams and heads and punched out to a 3.8. it will make about 700whp.

These cars are fun on public roads....it isn't about the VMax....it is about how quick they can get to the speeds that is the thrill for me.

I also don't consider a 997TT in stock form to be a supercar; not sure it ever was. To me that is LaFerrari, McLaren, GT2RS territory, and the 997TT is not in that league.

OH - and your 2009 6MT Cab is worth BUCKS now....!!
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I get it, but the arguments that kind of go like "waste to have that much power on the street" really fall flat with me. This is not a practical hobby. I have basic transportation covered, and I have 2 drivers with 12 high performance cars in the house not counting utilitarian cars.

I own and frequently drive cars up to 1000hp on the street - my 2011 Camaro with Vortech V7Ysi makes 850whp. It's a blast and it drives like a lamb until you floor it.

The 2007 turbo is getting Tial Xona 3076 turbos as well as cams and heads and punched out to a 3.8. it will make about 700whp.

These cars are fun on public roads....it isn't about the VMax....it is about how quick they can get to the speeds that is the thrill for me.

I also don't consider a 997TT in stock form to be a supercar; not sure it ever was. To me that is LaFerrari, McLaren, GT2RS territory, and the 997TT is not in that league.

OH - and your 2009 6MT Cab is worth BUCKS now....!!
Point taken. But practicality and supercar status is a matter of opinion. One man's ceiling and all that. It is of course a hobby as you say, but maybe I'm just closer to not having a pulse any longer than others. Or maybe the new technology and speed just don't thrill me anymore. Age? Maybe.

For me, I'd rather be driving your 356 than my old 997TT, and I've owned 3 997's and 2 996's, along with air cooled cars and a muscle car or two. I don't really care about the 09 TT being worth big bucks either. I've never regretted selling a car I was ready to sell.

I don't find exercising a car of this type on a public road fun. I find it a little dumb and a little dangerous, which is why I sold my car, along with the fact that it was sitting around 8 months a year. But that's me (no offense meant).

I'm jealous of some of the cars in your collection and would love to try some of them out, but I'll pass on the 04, the 07 and the 09. BTDT. Let's remember it's people like both of us who keep this hobby going and I appreciate your POV.

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Well. It's insured. It's also not depreciating with time so much. That's what makes these modern Turbos most interesting...We're talking about supercars for Camry money in terms of total cost of ownership. Can't drive the 365 in the snow. Can't drive it six hours down the highway. Can't drive it in 100F sun or 0F cold. These Turbos cover a lot of bases.

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Well. It's insured. It's also not depreciating with time so much. That's what makes these modern Turbos most interesting...We're talking about supercars for Camry money in terms of total cost of ownership. Can't drive the 365 in the snow. Can't drive it six hours down the highway. Can't drive it in 100F sun or 0F cold. These Turbos cover a lot of bases.
Rubbish. Just make sure it has a GT diff.
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Well. It's insured. It's also not depreciating with time so much. That's what makes these modern Turbos most interesting...We're talking about supercars for Camry money in terms of total cost of ownership. Can't drive the 365 in the snow. Can't drive it six hours down the highway. Can't drive it in 100F sun or 0F cold. These Turbos cover a lot of bases.
My first one I drove every day - put 12k miles on it in 10months. Snow and all. My other one is a full RWD conversion with Matt's diff and is a completely different animal. But you are correct these are more than capable in a bunch of different scenarios.
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Really interesting perspectives here guys - there is no right answer.

Yeah like I said the cars I have really provide a different experience. Want to show up half deaf and smelling like exhaust? 914-6 baby. No power ANYTHING, makes a 911 feel like a Bentley. Heats up the whole car because of the headers. But I would never sell it for the world.

Different cars for different purposes.

I accumulated all of them over a period of years and enjoy them all for different reasons.

I hope I did not come across as "Turbos are better than the others" because it's not true. I am a huge Turbo apologist and mega fan but they don't provide the entire Porsche driving experience.
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I did not come across as "Turbos are better than the others" because it's not true. I am a huge Turbo apologist and mega fan but they don't provide the entire Porsche driving experience.
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Too bad TW. I sold my 6 speed 09 TT Cab less than a year ago. It was a low mileage sweetheart.

But I found it a waste to own. On ramps? Really? I'm owning a supercar for the experience of on ramps? Or high speed corners at 90 in a 35 MPH zone? Tracking it was fun, but I couldn't come to terms with balling an $80K car into a wall at speed.

It's gone. My classics are all the fun I need for now.
Funny - my 'other' classic is rather quicker than my TT. But it's a bit modded.

It's also louder, less comfortable, less practical and requires way more effort to drive sensibly. It's been out twice this year. The TT has had 5k put on it in the same timeframe.
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ronnie’s job is safe from you.
I think that ol' Catorce is either being shy (doesn't want to pizz the N/A crowd off too much and have them start slinging monkey shart his direction) or he's a bit confused about this whole, turbo powaaa' thang (aka - there is no other Porsche driving experience worth experiencing . . . more than once)!

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Well said.
I think I'm a car guy first and foremost.
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Too fast to drive.

Too costly to track

so what's the point ?

The working A/C ?
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Too fast to drive.

Too costly to track

so what's the point ?

The working A/C ?
My point exactly.
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Too fast to drive.

Too costly to track

so what's the point ?

The working A/C ?
the satellite radio. Definitely the satellite radio....
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Too fast to drive.

Too costly to track

so what's the point ?

The working A/C ?
Why the negativity? What's the point? If you don't like the car - then move on.

As far as being too costly to track - that's the reason I bought a 996tt - I was originally looking for a GT3 - but didn't want 80-90K wrapped up in a car that was going to hit the track. Same reason that I sold the 74 IROC - it was a simple car - and fun to drive - but no heat, no AC, and no galvanizing (and I live 42 feet from saltwater)

Too fast? that's like having too much money or being too good looking.
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I used to love having an Accessport on my Subaru. I could go from my fuel economy low boost map to 100hp more with the push of a button and 60 seconds. Now that Cobb supports Porsche we can do the same thing. I love a modified car that only feels modified when I’m feeling frisky. Or for race gas at the track. Most of us here don’t have the bank account for an actual exotic.
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Too fast to drive.

Too costly to track

so what's the point ?

The working A/C ?
I think that was sarcasm as pman has a 6t....
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Why the negativity? What's the point? If you don't like the car - then move on.
You are reading too much into my previous post.
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As far as being too costly to track - that's the reason I bought a 996tt - I was originally looking for a GT3 - but didn't want 80-90K wrapped up in a car that was going to hit the track. Same reason that I sold the 74 IROC - it was a simple car - and fun to drive - but no heat, no AC, and no galvanizing (and I live 42 feet from saltwater)
As someone else said, one man's ceiling is another's floor.
Too much for most here, you and Catorce are the exceptions it appears, and the apparent runup is not helping.

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Too fast? that's like having too much money or being too good looking.
Yes, perhaps it's just a SFBay thing where you can't drive 50 ft without running into a slow moving Prius or similar LOL.
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