Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Technical BBS > 4-Classified Ads > Porsche Marketplace Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 2 votes, 3.00 average.
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Johns Creek, GA
Posts: 1,336
Amelia Island Auctions--Which One

I will more than likely take early "retirement" and sell a car or 2 to simplify my life. With this being the driving force, the stock market being on a tear, and the value of the $$ being weak, I am considering to consign the 930 to one of the auction houses for Amelia Island in March. Between RM, Hollywood, Gooding, and Bonham's, which one would best the bet fit (maximize the net cash in my pocket) for the 930? it is a 44k mile excellent car rate a 2/2- per an appraisal in 2015. Looking at the cars to be auctioned, I don't think I saw an early 3.3 turbo.
__________________
Charles
79 930 #632
88 911 Cab
74 TR6
88 CRX Si
Old 01-29-2018, 09:33 AM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Administrator
 
Dmitry at Pelican Parts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 3,037
Garage
Given the inventory that I've seen in the past, my vote would be for either Gooding or Bonham's - other members will likely chime in with any personal experiences. Best of luck!
Old 01-29-2018, 10:38 AM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Dave W
 
davewadd's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: redondo beach
Posts: 938
Have you considered Bring-A-Trailer? They seem to be pulling some good prices.
__________________
1975 911S (3.2) "The Blue Goose"
1978 SC 3.2 track car
Old 01-29-2018, 10:45 AM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 953
Amelia Island Auctions--Which One

Quote:
Originally Posted by cellison View Post
I will more than likely take early "retirement" and sell a car or 2 to simplify my life. With this being the driving force, the stock market being on a tear, and the value of the $$ being weak, I am considering to consign the 930 to one of the auction houses for Amelia Island in March. Between RM, Hollywood, Gooding, and Bonham's, which one would best the bet fit (maximize the net cash in my pocket) for the 930? it is a 44k mile excellent car rate a 2/2- per an appraisal in 2015. Looking at the cars to be auctioned, I don't think I saw an early 3.3 turbo.


Original paint? Really a condition 2? 78/79?

Gooding will bring $135,000 to $150,000 depending on crowd.

That is a VERY desirable color so Im guessing closer to $150,000.

BaT... not sure lately they just donít bring the money for original collector cars.

BaT is more of a enthusiast site than collector auction site.

Collectors with $150,000+ to spend will want to see,touch,smell the 930 and itís patina before they will let go of the $$$.

I must say you have one very desirable early 3.3.

Let me say that I feel you are selling too soon.. The market still does not recognize or even appreciate the significance/importance of these early 3.3s 78/79 930s in relation with their place in the history of the 930. In time they will I believe be right along side the 3.0 cars.

Last edited by 93097004xx; 01-29-2018 at 01:49 PM..
Old 01-29-2018, 11:06 AM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
gearhead
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Loverland, CO
Posts: 13,164
Seinfeld used Gooding a couple years ago when he sold a pile of cars.
__________________
1974 911 Restorod
1974 914 Bumble Bee
1975 911S Tom's Targa
2008 Cayman S Mule
Old 01-29-2018, 11:06 AM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
reefdiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Fayetteville, NC
Posts: 14
Garage
Seinfield also took four of those cars back to New York from Amelia Island. Due to "no-sales". Your also paying a 10% premium.
Old 01-29-2018, 11:28 AM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
gearhead
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Loverland, CO
Posts: 13,164
Quote:
Originally Posted by reefdiver View Post
Seinfield also took four of those cars back to New York from Amelia Island. Due to "no-sales". Your also paying a 10% premium.
Why didn't you mention that he sold more than a dozen at the same time?

Not really sure that sale or no sale matters on something like that. Point of my post was to suggest that Porsche buyers attend that show. A well priced and presented car will sell. Not knowing the specifics I have no idea which of Jerry's cars were no sales and why.
__________________
1974 911 Restorod
1974 914 Bumble Bee
1975 911S Tom's Targa
2008 Cayman S Mule
Old 01-29-2018, 11:36 AM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 269
Send a message via Yahoo to mobius911
I've casually checked the Gooding auctions, and it seems like any car with an expected range below $300K is sold at no reserve. So you have to be comfortable with that.

Not so sure I could stomach it. How many times have we seen Wayne Carini with that crestfallen look after the expected bidding war failed to materialize, after claiming (or hoping/praying) that "no reserve" would really get the action going?

Of course check to make sure that's the case, but that's how the recent auctions looked.
__________________
Jeff Jensen
1973 911
Old 01-29-2018, 12:53 PM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
techweenie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: West L.A.
Posts: 19,270
Garage
You're too late for Amelia. Think Monterey. I'll likely be sending a 70S there c/o Gooding.
__________________
techweenie | techweenie.com
Marketing Consultant (expensive!)
2004 996 Turbo Cab, triple black | (all out of longhoods)
2016 Chevy Volt parts fetcher- now at 444 MPG
Old 01-29-2018, 01:30 PM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered User
 
specialtyoneinc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: In Traffic
Posts: 923
RM & Gooding are probably the pickiest and sell the best quality cars out of the bunch. Not sure the auction route is going to get you the most money after considering transport, prep and fees etc... It's always a gamble.
Old 01-29-2018, 01:55 PM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Dave W
 
davewadd's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: redondo beach
Posts: 938
There is a low mileage '77 930 on BAT now, that is worth watching.
__________________
1975 911S (3.2) "The Blue Goose"
1978 SC 3.2 track car
Old 01-29-2018, 06:03 PM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Bozeman, MT
Posts: 4,265
Personally I'd list car for sale on usual sites and see what happens, you have nothing to lose by running a BAT auction but they will probably want to list a lower reserve than you may be comfortable with. I'd put fellers out to the auctions companies and see what they have to say - this is not a risk free strategy as you need to get car to auction site and back home if it doesn't sell. The 930 market has lost some steam over last couple of years but beautiful original cars like yours are not just hanging out everywhere- GLWS and enjoy your retirement.
Phil
Old 01-29-2018, 06:43 PM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
Now available:  101 Projects for Your Porsche Boxster!
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 4,176
I agree with Phil.

I would first try to sell it on the more conventional sites (PCA, Excellence, Pelican, etc.) before engaging an auction. If you feel comfortable with the value, offer it for sale to see the reaction prior.

There are many fees and other out of pocket costs that negate the benefit of an auction.
Old 01-30-2018, 04:07 AM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Dave W
 
davewadd's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: redondo beach
Posts: 938
Just sold for $115k

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1977-porsche-911-turbo-carrera-4/
__________________
1975 911S (3.2) "The Blue Goose"
1978 SC 3.2 track car
Old 01-30-2018, 01:09 PM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 953
Yeah you donít want to sell your 930 or testarossa on BaT..

The was a ridiculous result.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Old 01-30-2018, 01:13 PM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Registered User
 
specialtyoneinc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: In Traffic
Posts: 923
Quote:
Originally Posted by davewadd View Post
Crazy. Well bought IMO.
Old 01-30-2018, 01:15 PM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 31
Considering the rusted out junker 911SC that just sold on BaT for $32k, your 930 should go for $500K.
Old 01-31-2018, 04:01 AM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Registered User
 
shlobeck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Diego
Posts: 287
Garage
Agreed much too late for the houses at Amelia. Too often the overhead of placing a car in an auction house negates the best value of an average or above average car. Your objective at these auctions is to stimulate interest in non-Porsche buyers, with extreme low mileage, unique color combos, or rarity. The 930 is surely not rare in the spectrum of these auctions so you better come with a very clean, well preserved example. The Petrol blue/cork interior is a huge advantage. With prices fluctuating it’s unpredictable on the worth at a particular place in time. Are you willing to deal with the contingencies if it doesn’t sell and you find yourself $2-3k into a car you still own? It’s kinda like a hand of limit poker, the more players you have to call your nut-hand the more money you can potentially make. A unique colored cashmere ‘79 930 used in Seinfeld’s internet show sold well under estimates at Gooding last year. Good luck.

https://www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1979-porsche-930-6/
__________________
Number930dream.com

Last edited by shlobeck; 01-31-2018 at 10:11 PM..
Old 01-31-2018, 03:40 PM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Outside of NYC, inside it during the work week
Posts: 1,300
COnsider the "other cars in the auction" - the more Porsches the better as that means more Porsche Buyers...and all it takes is TWO of them to want your Car.

Also - which serves the most booze for free - that seems to help inhibitions and machismo loosen the wallet as -ssholes try to show up their peers.

That said - why not post here, Renn, eBay and others. No fees like the auctions and a huge audience.
Old 01-31-2018, 03:58 PM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Registered User
 
specialtyoneinc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: In Traffic
Posts: 923
Quote:
Originally Posted by shlobeck View Post
Agreed much too late for the houses at Amelia. Too often the overhead of placing a car in an auction house negates the best value of an average or above average car. Your objective at these auctions is to stimulate interest of non-Porsche buyers, with extremely low mileage, a unique color combo, or rarity. The 930 is surely not rare in the spectrum of these auctions so you better come with a very clean, well preserved example. The Petrol blue/cork interior is a huge advantage. With prices fluctuating itís unpredictable on the worth at that particular place in time. Are you willing to deal with the contingencies if it doesnít sell and you find yourself $2-3k into a car you still own? Itís kinda like a good hand of limit poker, the more people you have to call your nut-hand the more money you can potentially make. A unique colored cashmere Ď79 930 used in Seinfeldís internet show sold well under estimates at Gooding last year. Good luck.

https://www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1979-porsche-930-6/
Agreed. So basically on that Gooding example above the seller would of net around $105k after all of their fees (10% seller fee plus transport and detailing etc...)
Old 01-31-2018, 06:36 PM
  Pelican Parts Technical Article Directory    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:04 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2017 Pelican Parts LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.