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I just listened to the video, quad tip muffler sounds great. Both of mine have the Borla quad tip, sounds so much better than stock.
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Such a cool Turbo.
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That 5spd converted 930 box is worth $20k just by itself.

I think it’s gonna break $150k.
Agree
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Seems to me that most everyone believes that everything on BaT that sells for a price is worth that price. Guess BaT is the new standard for Porsche pricing. Just as some people think a rusty SC is worth $35K and some do not. This car is not worth $160K. Sorry.
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[QUOTE=SalParadise;9923065] This car is not worth $160K. Sorry.

The old adage "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink ". Good luck, we tried.
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This car is not worth $160K. Sorry.

The old adage "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink ". Good luck, we tried.
Yep. Guess it's time for me to eat crow.
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Yep. Guess it's time for me to eat crow.
Another on BAT if you want to try again, it's red.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-porsche-911-turbo-8/

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Dang! That receipt! $66,000.00 upgrade in 1987. I get flashbacks of the Miami Vice lifestyle.
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$168k on the new one.
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I remain baffled at buyers paying these high prices for a 930 (or 911) with bolts-ons and an engine swap. A genuine RUF serial numbered chassis on the other hand is unique and cannot be reproduced.

Gauges, bumpers, wheels, oil cooler, engine, trans etc could be removed from one 930 and installed on another, so do these bits add up to the $80k premium the blue car fetched?

Matt, good for the seller of the red one if he comes close to your estimate. I won’t go as far as to say fools and their money, but it’s enlightening to see the appetite for these cars.... continues.

Jim
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I remain baffled at buyers paying these high prices for a 930 (or 911) with bolts-ons and an engine swap. A genuine RUF serial numbered chassis on the other hand is unique and cannot be reproduced.

Gauges, bumpers, wheels, oil cooler, engine, trans etc could be removed from one 930 and installed on another, so do these bits add up to the $80k premium the blue car fetched?

Matt, good for the seller of the red one if he comes close to your estimate. I won’t go as far as to say fools and their money, but it’s enlightening to see the appetite for these cars.... continues.

Jim
A original RUF BTR factory built car (30 or so made) would probably go for double than these conversions are going for. Couldn't find any comps, but this 89 factory CTR just sold in France for over $425k with fees.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/PA18/Paris/lots/r0004-1989-ruf-ctr-clubsport/564645
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A original RUF BTR factory built car (30 or so made) would probably go for double than these conversions are going for. Couldn't find any comps, but this 89 factory CTR just sold in France for over $425k with fees.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/PA18/Paris/lots/r0004-1989-ruf-ctr-clubsport/564645
Now that is a really nice one with a great vintage color. About the same price as the red Kremer with under 10K miles that Mecum sold @ Kissimmee last year. Both in the one off category. So if someone wants one like these not too many chances to get one. In that way almost like the few near zero mile 930 out there. Difference, the RUF can stay the same value if you drive it as it already has way over 100K miles. The 0 miler or the Kremer with low miles @ Mecum kissimmee last year may both lose value if you drive it.
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This late 70s Kremer that was sold locally recently ( I missed out) also in this $400K price range and was a very good deal in my opinion. Take off the graphics, put on wide street tires & wheels and drive this upgraded to 760 HP beauty. I checked it out before it was sold. Could have been both raced ( it was ) and street driven. These special Euro built Porsche Turbo are lately getting some sale result exposure. Wonder if/when the CA specials like Alan Johnson, Andial, Vasek Polak and other great US builders will get traction along with the Euro well built specials. I like them including stock ones. Some think I'm nuts but I'm sure there are ( hopefully) other normal people out there. Even the one currently being offered , " 1976 Porsche 930 Turbo | Longwood, FL | Millenia Motors " at the price, is to me, interesting.
To sum it up, high miles on the paris RM Sothebys RUF , the previously raced Kremer Vaillant livery and the low mile Red Kremer @ Mecum Kissimmee don't always make a car undesirable as evidenced by similar price results.

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I remain baffled at buyers paying these high prices for a 930 (or 911) with bolts-ons and an engine swap. A genuine RUF serial numbered chassis on the other hand is unique and cannot be reproduced.

Gauges, bumpers, wheels, oil cooler, engine, trans etc could be removed from one 930 and installed on another, so do these bits add up to the $80k premium the blue car fetched?

Matt, good for the seller of the red one if he comes close to your estimate. I wonít go as far as to say fools and their money, but itís enlightening to see the appetite for these cars.... continues.

Jim
We need to keep in mind that Ruf released their first tuned model of a 911 in 1975, but it was many years after that before they became an actual "manufacturer" and were issuing vins. One must always look at the exact provenance of the car in question. The number one question being,"Did Ruf do the conversion?"

A car with a bunch of Ruf parts is not a Ruf. A Ruf built vehicle with a 930 vin is still a Ruf. The grey area in this blazing hot market is cars converted by Ruf distributors around the world. A 1984 930 converted by Ruf USA in 1989 is not a Ruf. One done in 1984 at Ruf, is a different beast all together.
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