[sammyg2]

I got the impression that helio and that big security dude were friends and helio was juast strongly explaining his frustration, it wasn't meant as a threat of violence.
helio did move out of his line in the corner. Instead of hugging the apex he moved out about 10 feet into the other car's line.

I saw it as a racing move and not worthy of punishment.

If any of these racing sanctioning bodies had a freaking clue they'd all adopt the same rule:
Any full course caution that occurs on the final 15 laps will immediately stop the counting of laps. Time will basically stop until the green comes back out, and anyone causing a yellow in the last 15 laps will be scrutinized and if the incident is determined to be avoidable that car that caused it will be DNF'd.
Unfortunately they won't do that because having a bunch of cars sprinting to the checkered flag makes good theatre for the less sophisticated fans.

They encourage yellow flags, they sometimes manufacture yellow flag incidents late in the race. It's getting more and more like professional wrestling. They don't want a car to get too far ahead. They want them all bunched up and racing that final corner so forest gump will stay interested.
That's solely for the benefit of those who have a 15 second attention span, the same people who whine that there isn't enough passing in F1.

As far as Ferrari is concerned: they told massa-for-brains over the radio that Alonso was faster and asked that he confirmed that he heared that transmission.
That's all they said.
You can interpret it any way you like, just like massa for brains did. He got his ittle bitty feelings hurt and pulled over to protest.
I seriously doubt that was what they wanted or expected.

I took it this way (which makes a whole bunch more sense than the ridiculous BS the tin foil hats are saying in this forum):

Recently two red-bull-tards wrecked each other because their egos would not allow the to realize they work for the same company.
Ferrari didn't want that to happen to them.
The common sense thing would be to race each other but not to wreck each other. In other words the faster car should not be blocked. He would have to earn the pass but it should not be denied. Duh.
I believe that was what ferrari was indicating and that is not against the rules Which, BTW, I have read.
Team rules are a no-no, but blocking is also supposed to be a no-no yet they let that get way out of hand.

Massa got his old, slow panties in a bunch because he was reminded once again that he is the slowest ferrari driver in F1 and he didn't like that so he threw a tantrum.
By doing that he threw his team under the bus.
If I were running the show he'd be sitting on the sidelines until the end of the season when his contract would not be renewed.

Ferrari did not order mushhead to pull over and lift. He did that on his own.
He was not ordered to do that. he did it because he is a spoiled little brat who no longer belongs in the game. He intentionally hurt his team and that should never be tolerated.

The FIA tards evidently can read minds because they punished ferrari not for what they did, but for what the FIA thought ferrari intended to do or wanted to do.

I'll save the rest for the other thread about this.