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3.3 turbo engine camshafts recommendations?
Hello, I’m rebuilding 3.3 turbo engine. And don’t know what type of camshafts should I go for. My current setup is:
Stock crankshaft Carrillo H rods 3.3 stock cylinders with JE 8,5:1 compression ratio Garrett gtx30 gen2 Aftermarket headers and intercooler. Dbilas dynamic are offering Duration: : 276°/272° Peak timing: : 108 Valve lift: : 10,7/ 9,8 That seems to be a bit to drastic for such low compression ratio. Please correct me if I’m wrong. What spec cams you will recommend for street application? |
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Depends on what you want the car to drive like off boost and ultimate power. SC cams are popular for street driving, low RPM drivability. 964 cams are a good compromise (still mild), but more mid-range power. Since you are running a smaller turbo for a 3.3, you can probably get away with a slightly more aggressive grind (top end).
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I have a pair of very low mileage SC cams by Webcam if you go that route.
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Could someone tell me duration and valve lift of SC and 964?
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I put SC in mine, wish I had the 964.
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Looking at the Dbilas dynamic cams, it's hard to tell whether their specs are seat timing (full duration), or measured at 1 mm or .050". That's important for making a valid comparison with what you'll see Web, DR, and others offering.
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Mine has new Webb 964s.
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EFI vs CIS needs to be known too. You can use more cam with EFI.
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With the gtx30 the 964 might be better. The gtx30 should be way fast boosting and you wouldn’t need the sc cams. That turbo might even be too small?
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I got a couple of these if you want...
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I just had a rebuild by TK and had Elgin SuperSC installed, which are in between SC and 964. Running in an EFI setup. They seem fine at the moment - good at all rpms, and I still need to get to a dyno for some ultimate fine tuning, so there is still more to be had I believe. Nothing on a track so cannot speak to performance other than on local roads.
It is hard to select without first hand experience ... best of luck with your choice.
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I have same cams - got them from TK.
I don't have much to compare them to - I changed a few things at the same time. But I am happy with the range of performance of the beast. Pulls well once on boost, all the way thru the range. Off boost seems OK, but I try not to spend any time there, but around town I think it would be fine. Alan
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