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Speeder37 06-28-2022 09:28 PM

Another No Start
 
I almost hate to post this, but here goes:
Note: I have read the sticky and about every other thread regarding no start.
1985 47k 930 that has done nothing but run perfect. I parked it for the winter in December, plugged into a trickle charger, waxed and covered the car.
Due to lots of things, I did not start the car until today. It turned over just fine but did not start.
I went first to the fuel pump relays and switched them out and no start. Went to the back and switched out red (no yellow relay) relay. There is no spark at the coil and no power to the positive post of the distributor
It has Permanent Tune box. I had my wife turn the car over while checking the six prong feed to the Perma Tune box. I could not get any 12 volt read on any of the six main harness connections feeding the Perma Tune.
Regarding the 14 point connector, there was power at only one prong.
This is a ROW car with no relays under either seat.
Cap and rotor seem to be in great condition.
The big question is what changed over the winter down time?
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Matt

DaytonaCoupe66 06-29-2022 03:21 AM

Bad ground connection perhaps? Could a rodent have munched on wires over the winter? I've stopped covering mine. It provides another layer of security for varmit to roost undetected. Not very technical feedback but easy stuff to check.

Speeder37 06-29-2022 04:50 AM

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No evidence of any wire issues

T77911S 06-29-2022 05:00 AM

the red rly controls the FPs
you need to go back and figure why you are not getting power to the permadoom.
you can start with the fuses. spin them to make sure they are making contact.
you a "delayed action rly" (DAR for short) that supplies power to the permadoom.
you should have power on pin 30 all the time
pin L is power TO the permadoom
pin S is power FROM the ignition switch.
if no power on S then either 14 pin conn or ignition sw.
it looks like pin 6 is from the SW.

yea, always amazes me how things go bad sitting.

as said, make sure a rodent has not chewed a wire. they usually make nests under the fan shroud

Speeder37 06-29-2022 10:11 AM

Solved
 
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The relay feeding the Perma tune was bad after checking it. Power was at 31 but not going out at 30.
Jumped 31 and 30 and all is well.
Will order a new relay and backup.
I hope this can help someone in the future.
Regards,
Matt

T77911S 06-30-2022 04:24 AM

pin L is your output to the permadoom

i think you got lucky.
30 is 12v, 31 is GROUND!!!
there is NO fuse on 30. that could have been very bad.

you jumpered L to S which would mean you have power from the ign SW.

pop it open. probably a bad solder joint.


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