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cole930 01-31-2009 12:47 PM

Billit injector blocks
 
Putting out a feeler to find some billet injector blocks for the "Old Sled".
I need standard 930 32mm. Thought some the EFI guys might be of some help.

THANKS !!!!!
Cole

911nut 01-31-2009 01:20 PM

Try www.goingsuperfast.com

rsrfan 01-31-2009 01:46 PM

Try Chris Carroll at TurboKraft in Arizona.

Akila 01-31-2009 05:17 PM

2nd on TurboKraft
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1233451038.jpg

Craig 930 RS 01-31-2009 06:37 PM

Great idea - with the insulators (a must) you have one hell of a setup.

cole930 01-31-2009 06:46 PM

Thanks for the suggestions. I have heard a lot about Turbocraft but have never
bought from them.
Would anyone happen to have a set of billet blocks they have replaced when converting to EFI
before I go buy new?
Those Turbocraft blocks are pure art.

THANKS AGAIN !!!!!!
Cole

Akila 01-31-2009 10:12 PM

The problem with used injector blocks is they are plastic, phenolic, & may end up cracking on you. Correct me if I am wrong, but the heat from our motors can cause the phenolic blocks to become ridgid, which can crack, hence leaks may occur. Something to think of when going used.

A930Rocket 02-01-2009 10:46 AM

How much does a set of billet injector blocks costs for grins?

JFairman 02-01-2009 11:50 AM

more than i would pay...
 
CIS Injector Blocks
$495.00

panel 02-01-2009 05:07 PM

http://www.ultimateaircooled.com/holder01.jpg

And the thread link...............

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=123329

DailyDriven'88 02-02-2009 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akila (Post 4457178)
The problem with used injector blocks is they are plastic, phenolic, & may end up cracking on you. Correct me if I am wrong, but the heat from our motors can cause the phenolic blocks to become ridgid, which can crack, hence leaks may occur. Something to think of when going used.

For the price of new oem ones, I dont see why anyone would want to go used. If you own a 930, cheaping out shouldnt be an option. Those billet ones sure are nice!

cole930 02-02-2009 08:20 AM

Daily Driven 88,

I am not cheaping out here. My original phenolic blocks are presently crack
free. I was not looking for used phenolic blocks, I was looking for used billet
blocks. When most users convert to EFI they change intakes and use fuel rails.
I simply thought, by chance, one of those users might have had billet blocks
with his original set up that they would be willing to sell.
I am not cheap. I simply have a limited amount I can spend. In the past 3
years I've had a Heart Bypass and then got Cancer that required 7 additional
operations. I just finished Chemo that consisted of three treatments a month
for 6 months at $14,000.00 a treatment. It presently isn't prudent to take
money from the household to buy parts for "The Old Sled". Consequently I sell the
parts I'm replacing to fund the new ones and that requires me to shop before
I buy.

Cole

DailyDriven'88 02-02-2009 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cole930 (Post 4459539)
Daily Driven 88,

I am not cheaping out here. My original phenolic blocks are presently crack
free. I was not looking for used phenolic blocks, I was looking for used billet
blocks. When most users convert to EFI they change intakes and use fuel rails.
I simply thought, by chance, one of those users might have had billet blocks
with his original set up that they would be willing to sell.
I am not cheap. I simply have a limited amount I can spend.

Cole

My comment was not directed to you. It was a response to the comment I quoted in regards to used phenolic blocks.

jpnovak 02-02-2009 02:59 PM

Those injector holders are the $hit!!! I can see so many new applications for such a product.

Thanks for the link. I will be waiting...

x98boardwell 02-02-2009 07:12 PM

Turbokraft
 
I also have Chris's blocks from Turbokraft. They worked great and I am very happy.

Thanks,
Bryan

JFairman 02-02-2009 07:33 PM

Do you ever get any hot start roughness/sputtering caused by heat transfer from the heads into the metal injector blocks causing fuel vaporization in the injectors and lines shortly after a hot shutdown?

Seems that would or could be the only summertime drivability problem with metal injector blocks, and thats why the factory used phenolic resin or bakelite for them... to insulate the injectors from cylinder head heat.

I just wish they made them with thicker walls so they can be hogged out to 38mm without making the walls so thin they crack and crumble when tightening down the intake manifold nuts

x98boardwell 02-02-2009 08:32 PM

Thoughts
 
JFairman,

I think the fact that the billet blocks come with the phenolic spacers answers your question of heat transfer and why they were designed that way. The benefit is what you mentioned regarding "going bigger" and Chris at Turbokraft told me they have never had any issues with heat.

I was curious about the same thing when I was looking for a solution to my stock spacers.

Bryan

JFairman 02-02-2009 08:59 PM

cool, thanks for the info.

The old BMW 2000CS, 2002ti, and Mercedes 190SL came with Solex 40PHH dual sidedraft carbs and similar phenolic spacers between the carbs and short manifolds for the same reason... to try and stop heat transfer fuel vaporization.
They would still vaporize and boil gas over from the float bowls into the primary venturis after a hot shut down though.
Weber DCOE carbs aren't quite as bad about doing that.

nocarrier 02-02-2009 09:07 PM

I was worried about the heat transfer as well. I wasn't sure if the injector itself not being isolated and directly attached to such a big piece of aluminum heat sink would have caused problems.

I ended up boring mine out to 31.5 mm (if I remember correctly)

I think after all the good reviews and not seeing any evidence of the heat soak problem I may have to buy a set when the time comes around.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1233637641.jpg

Akila 02-02-2009 09:29 PM

The Blocks that are pictured are 38mm. I bought them for use with SC heads.


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