Monster of Monsters For Sale! This is a can't miss!!

tarheelturbo · 09:27 AM

I'm posting this for a buddy of mine that i met, because he is selling possibly one of the meanest street 930s i've ever seen, i have been close to pulling the trigger on it myself but i don't think its the right decision for me right now, this in fact is the reason i put my car up for sale to begin with. This pains me to share, but after the experience i had with the car i felt it right to be the one to help find it a new home

Some details
Its a 79 930, has a factory slant conversion done in the last 10 years, boxed rockers, vented rear quarters,
Fresh metal off show quality paint job! i mean 10/10 easy!
perfect all stock interior replaced in the last few years easy 9.5/10

Now for the important stuff

3.6L
3.6 crank balanced knife edged, and cryoed
h beam rods(pauter i believe)
custom pistons
all ARP hardware
3.6 heads ported to 42mm intake/ and i believe 39mm exhaust
75mm throttle body
gt2 EVO cams
the intake manifold is off a 3.2 but its been ported to match
its twin plug
twin injectors per cylinder
custom one off kooks equal length headers
twin t4 turbonetics turbos 30mm housing with 55mm wheels
twin tial 46mm wg's
Custom full bay intercooler
3 oil coolers, on in the bumper 1 in each fenderwell
G50/50 tranny
Kennedy 3600lb clutch
Quaife Diff
Lightweight factory flywheel
Motec m48 engine management

Wheels suspension brakes
It has an all RSR style coilover suspension, thats been balanced and corner weighted ( car is 2750lbs)
Brembo Big Reds all around
Fikse FM10 wheels 18"

Thats an over view, the car boosting about 1.5 bar and is hands down the fastest car i've ever been in, my estimate would be well well north of 650rwhp, maybe closer to 700rwhp, the 295s on the back chatter in 3rd gear!!

$50,000
This car is a steal, it would cost twice that just to turn a regular 930 into a beast like this, its so perfect, and so fast! I hope it finds the right home, and it really pains me to share this, i've been keeping it a secret for a while.

Please contact me for more information, i told the owner i would help him out with this , since i consumed so much of his time with my interest in the car!
Tarheelturbo@aim.com
336 624 0775

heres some pics, keep in mind some of the information might not be correct on the page.. it was written by the guys at the business where its on consignment, and they don't have a clue about the car!!

World Class Imports

JMS935 · 10-05-2009, 07:55 AM

Isn't a 'factory slantnose conversion' an oxy moron? It's either a factory slantnose or a conversion. Since this Porsche for sale is a '79, it's more like a conversion. It sounds awesome though, you should post some pics.

Ken911 · 10-05-2009, 08:04 AM

Why is it that the really awsome cars come up for sale when I am flat broke!! This would look perfect next to mine in the driveway

tarheelturbo · 10-05-2009, 08:18 AM

I apologize for an misunderstanding, what i was alluding to is that its factory porsche steel body parts used in the conversion!

Reaper930 · 10-05-2009, 08:24 AM

He's got a lot of the specs I have on my motor - same turbos it looks like as well. The motor is close to the asking price of the car...

tarheelturbo · 10-05-2009, 08:33 AM

i know buddy! thats why i was going to buy it!! its a freaking sick fast car!
when you just add up the motor, paint, suspension, brakes, wheels your at 80k and that doesn't include the interior, or the the car.. its a crazy deal
Maybe i should still buy it, i just don't know.. i know you think i should Gabe! haha

pkracer21j · 10-05-2009, 09:56 AM

you should still buy it... I'm just sayin!

SCHNELE · SCHNELE's Garage

Good looking car but too many stories. The fan is a later 964/993 fan I think the description of the damage to the rear is synonymous with backing the car into something hard after the tail swung around, but all in all the engine work is likely to make you not care about the questionable history. Of Course this is all my humble speculative opinion. No affiliation and no harm intended.

SCHNELE · SCHNELE's Garage

OH Yeah I missed the statement that the car is boosting to 1.5, on pump gas?! Righty O.

Reaper930 · 10-05-2009, 07:33 PM

Is the motor from a 964? I know that's how I got my fan setup, and if so it sounds real sweet for a motor you can run till you blow it then rebuild it how you want to.

Brad I think the motor is totally worth buying the car, and worst case you can always do a full 934 or 935 out of her and tube out sections to lose weight and correct any prior accident damage.

I'd say its a solid sell for $45k but no more in my opinion. The ride height needs to be corrected, and if the spindles are not raised in the front add that in as well - and don't forget that the rear 935 spring plates will have to be relocated to drop the chassis on the wheels as the way it sits IMHO isn't that great. I see a car wth potential...

jwasbury · 10-05-2009, 08:33 PM

Only 200 miles on the engine...how many more at 1.5 bar before it needs another rebuild?

I don't much like the interior with the tan colored dash...they didn't come from the factory like that, did they? Looking at the photo from inside pointing up at the sunroof, I could't help but notice the sunvisors are crap. If you've spent that kind of dough, why not throw down for new sun visors? Just sayin'

lucittm · lucittm's Garage

Is it just me? The pictures of the dash show the tach indicating 1000 RPM, so the engine is idling, and there is no oil pressure? Even if the engine is warm there should be some...

I'd stay away.

Mark

Reaper930 · 09:24 PM

Just as a heads up, the guy who built my motor runs 1.6 bar on pump gas, as mine was run for a bit as well with no ill effects. If the car has the tuning to fuel it and deal with any issues that arise, there isn't anything wrong with 1.5 or 1.6 on pump gas - just have to be careful and attentive is all.

Forgot to say that yes your rebuild intervals will be much shorter

hehehehehe but hey when are they ever long for us boost addicts?

JBL930 · 10-05-2009, 11:45 PM

Forgive me for being stupid but i can't work out how the intercooler is plumbed in for two turbos, it looks like it only has one feed in on the left hand side, are both turbos using this? Is that not a bit restrictive? Should the feeds from the turbos not be equal length?

tarheelturbo · 10-06-2009, 05:08 AM

Alright, well i missed a lot of action over night

Schnelle _ yes it could be considered a stories car, but it has all been repaired to very high standards, i'm sure its straight to say the least,

Gabe- unfortunately the ride height is very undesirable to me as well, worst thing is they went through a lot of setup to get it all working to a very high standard at that ride height, but i'm sure all that could be changed,
yes i believe the heads and case are both from a 964, as the fan indicates.

For everyeone- yes the high boost issue has worried me as well, the good news is the owner is a high hp turbo fanatic, and considers this 1.5 bar a pump gas tune, but still insists on running 120octane oxygynated fuel in it, thats whats been in it the whole time. It has worried me as well, but the mechanic at the shop where the car is at right now, just went through and changed the plugs on the car, and said there is no evidence of any ring damage, i think it needs to be turned back no matter what, but i don't think theres anything wrong with it now.
I don't know whats up with those visors, they are real suede, and so is the headliner, thats something that was added as well, and the guages you are noticing not working, its because the sensors are not hooked up, i do'nt know why same thing with the oil temp. mechanic at shop was filling me in on that as well.

As for the whacky intercooler, the second turbo is on the front side of the motor, it has 2 identical headers, so one is flipped forward, and one back, so the other boost tube per say comes up on the front side of the intercooler. its strange to say the least, the guy that is responsible for the build is a major turbo motor builder, but not a air cooled porsche builder, so they built it to the highest standards possible, but in the case of the turbo placement, definitely not traditional. But there are 2 boost tubes, just one you can't see from pictures, the owner is emailing me a cd with pics and i'm going to get them up as soon as i can, maybe there will be some more revealing photos

krasuskyp · 10-06-2009, 07:04 PM

"Carburation removed"? haHA! Brilliant.

Regardless of dealer ignoramus and uberpoor writing skills (!!!), looks like a fantastic build. And I'd not let the 'stories' scare me from at least proceeding w/ a PPI if I were interested but that's just me. Forums are funny like that, many jump to all sorts of wacky conclusions. No oil pressure reading @ idle - bet there isn't any! heh heh

Agreed on the visors Jake, I uttered a huge outloud WTF on 'that' one. Odd. And also unsure about liking the tan bezel treatment but diff'rnt strokes / folks.

And I personally like the ride height - looks fine (better than mine certainly). Every car doesn't need to be DTM slammed 'n stuffed IMO.

Brad... dooooo eeeeeeeet 8-)...

tarheelturbo · 10-07-2009, 05:19 AM

agreed... this car is as nice as anything i've seen forsale, and i've pursued all of the concerns on it, and its beyond reproach, whether it works out for me to do or not, is not a representation of how well put together high quality build this is!
Yes the leather bezels on the guages is not the best looking thing in the world, but neither is the blitz boost guage or the autometer nascar tach, or the puffy suede visors, its awful, but those are tiny details on an amazing machine, the motor alone makes buying this car worthwhile. imho this car with a stock motor is a 35k car easy, its in such amazing condition. and the motor speaks for itself. fantastic deal, i've spent a lot of time hiding it from the community, but i'm sharing it because i don't think it will work for me. i'm just surprised more people in this arena haven't thought about jumping on it, but hey, i'm so confused about the car market right now...

My other question, is why has no one here jumped on my black car, its a steal at 31k.... someone answer that for me??? i'm at a loss!

copbait73 · copbait73's Garage

Quote:

Originally Posted by tarheelturbo

My other question, is why has no one here jumped on my black car, its a steal at 31k.... someone answer that for me??? i'm at a loss!

Even in good times old (most air-cooled) Porsches of all types are not daily drivers so if you want to buy and sell (I know this was not your intention with this car) keep their sell price below $20K. The 930 typically brings a $5K premium but these figures seem to be the threshold (as they are in new car sales).

The market for special weekend Porsches costing over $20K is saturated so it's a hard sell. Of course the days of trading in "home equity" for a loan to buy or build $50K 20 year old cars of any type is gone and that makes things much worse.

Most restored cars going over the blocks at Barrett-Jackson have twice the investment they sell for.

You have a nice car, keep it and enjoy it.

jwasbury · 10-07-2009, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tarheelturbo

My other question, is why has no one here jumped on my black car, its a steal at 31k.... someone answer that for me??? i'm at a loss!

Agree that its a steal, but everyone here has already got one.

tarheelturbo · 10-07-2009, 08:58 AM

I hear that, i'm just frustrated with the whole process to be honest. Its crazy to talk about these cars, especially nice well sorted ones going for less than the 30k range.. but anyways i've just been slightly disappointed in the interest generated here, ebay, autotrader.. its been less than i thought. a lot less