seldom are truer words ever spoken!

seriously...excellent examples are not falling from grace.

Really? hard to keep pace with a Audi TTRS. I drive with a car club full of newer Ferraris and Lambos and with my modded 411rwhp 930 and fresh brake system have no problem hanging in all day long. Can't think of any other 1981 car that can do that. I can still leave new corvettes behind!

Good, Good and Good. Call it what you want. Old, Archaic, Expensive... Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Rick. I am amidst a full '88 944 turbo resto. ( About 90% complete ).
I am a "knucke dragger". I love spewing oil and unburned gas on the windshield of modern cars that claim to be fast.

I like to feel the road. I like old, archaic, expensive toys.

930 here I come! My wife wants me to take a break and enjoy the 944. So I will be in the market in about a year or so. (Plus I need to build a 930 fund... lol)

Catch ya'll later.

Rick

[QUOTE=Tt surgeon;6367835]I've seen the prices ticking upward recently.
Unmolested, low mile cars are in demand.

+ 1

I paid $32k for mine. 1986 47k miles. It was a cosmetic RUF Slant Nose Conversion. No 5 speed, 3.4 liter motor or RUF Intercooler.:(
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Pics are easier than typing!;)

That's a great deal.

Fantastic price.

There will always be purists willing to pay big $ for a clean stock vehicle - then there are guys like me and Rick up a couple of replies. I bought my 930 with every intention of modding the stock right out of this beast. I couldn't find an EFI'd car or if I did it was big $$ so I built mine. I don't give one cat turd about "original" or the guy that thinks that's the only "valuable" 930. When I'm ready to move on I'm sure another guy just like me will be searching for his "dream 930" and I will get my price. As a realist I will no doubt deduct the amount of fun and enjoyment from what I have into her and let the next owner get a good but fair deal on a wicked driver/track dog fun mobile.

Value is determined by the next guy in line

I found a 1987 930 stock concourse w/35k miles for $42k two years ago for a life time bud

he's a bit of a weekend wrench and is spooked of devaluing it if he does the wrong thing. He won't touch this car. He figures if he doesn't touch it it'll aways be his personal musem piece. Some people like a painting hanging on the wall and some people like cars

I told him to buy another one to screw around with. He's all for it and though it's now off his radar if I find one I think he needs I can talk him into it.. God bless America

he'll keep the 930 as a garage queen unless someone comes up w/$52k


otherwise my west LA bro says that some Porsche and exotic car pros in LA say the 1987-89 911 are becoming rarer by the day and show the best opportunity for appreciation

and the 911 et al is one of the best cars to personalize [my rant]. It's really a boy toy for adults. For the most part whatever you can dream up you can do to a 911/930. Try doing that with a computer Mustang, Camaro etc. Even if it was a 1970s or 1980s car you still can't personalize it like you can a pre 1990 911/930. A world class supercar that you can play with to your heart's desire, and afford, is a nice act


Even though all the above replies were good we're still in a financial recession that doesn't allow the big bucks to be thrown around like it is in good times. Even if the guy with big bucks hasn't had to tighten up he's a bit institutionalized into being cheap and tight. From the broads getting $200/month hair shop bills to the guy flying into Aspen with his own 12 seater tipping his baggage delivery guy only $20 instead of his usual $40, the fast and loose $ isn't being tossed around. For sure it's a buyers dream time. If we see a few years of GNP growth over 4% the 911/930 market values will explode.. i think
Exotic car dealers in the city are already preparing to go out of business. Wall Street kept many big buck retailers in business [so says WSJ].

I think if a buyer shops for a rig that's had a ton of bucks invested that the owner knows he'll never get back but is forced to sell is the best adventure.

and my bro expects to get $25k there about for his really nice 1988 Carrera if he ever gets around to actively selling it. He's a good businessman [i'm not] and his logic is that $25k sitting in his garage is worth more than $25k sitting in the bank. $25k comes from maintence receipts and history since new, no accidents, bills from expensive repair shops, it being S Calif since new and him being the second owner, etc. Is he correct that it's worth a few thou in bonus coupons... don't know

I need a 250hp 3.4 to go with my 1978-79 floating rotor 930 brakes to better cope with the 10pm-1am late commuters doing 65-90 in a 55 zone when I do my weekly 25 mile ride with them. My whole loop is 60 miles avering 11-12 mpg. Doing 4th gear at 3.5-4.2k rpms for the commuter run is doable for best action with the right traffic and some more torque would be great entertainment. There is nothing more beautiful that watching a tight 911 hopping around among people who do 15-25 over limit 5days/week. There is no other car than can be dialed in any way I want.
I'm not sure that I shoud stay with carbs or go with MFI.. EFI doesn't apply

sorry to hijack the thread....

which way do you guys htink these cars ('86-'89) will go price-wise?

i posted a similar question over on rennlist today.

i'm of the 30's/40's (year old) generation, and 930's were THE car when i was a teen. is that the age demographic for buyers of this car now, much like people in their 50's-60's+ are who drove the muscle car market to extremes in the past decade?

i'm in a position to potentially buy one that i've known, literally, since i was a teen and the car was new, and had the conversation with wife last night....:eek:

problem for me is if i bought it i'd want to own it forever, and i wouldn't care where the value went, up or down. to help convince my wife, however, it'd be helpful to get some indicator of where the value might go. "But honey, this is an INVESTMENT!"

;):D

That's what I told my wife. Plus every mod I bought for the car has been 100 bucks or less, as far as she knows. By the way I have met RoninLB in person and he has his car ready for cross country trip at any moment.

The problem is I have zero credibility in that department, because I already have a sports car that I never drive (less than 100mi this year, sadly), taking up valuable garage space (her car sits outside as a result, gee how nice am I?).

Only thing worse than a beat up 930 is a 930 that sits un-driven. Them hoses & seals don't like that sort of thing....

How much is the seller asking for the car BCT11?

it's the car i have listed in the for sale section (i'm helping my buddy sell it, he's not too proficient with computers). basically it's like a family car, i've known it literally since i was a teen, used to wash it & wax it for my neighbor (the owner of the car).

i was out in cal. about a month or so ago and drove the car to cars & coffee in irvine, a weekly event they have out there. sooooooooooo awesome. here's a pic from the day:

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my own car is faster, but not by that much and the 930 is such a raw, visceral experience. its plenty fast. and sounds sooooo good and looks even better. i don't know if it's heresy to say such things here, but i really have no bid whatsoever for a modern porsche, any model (with exception of maybe a carrera gt) even if i could afford it. after '89, my interest stopped. i've been in modern porsches as passenger, and they're no doubt amazing, but that's only half the fun for me.

Looks cool, they all look cool.

:eek:


Holy Crap! You got a screaming deal on that one if it runs as good as it looks! :cool:

It was running as good as it looks. Then I split two Injection blocks and the fuel injection system blew up. $4500 later it is running pretty sweet. It still wants to "hunt" for the idle at the stop light every now and again and my mechanic has it a bit rich I think. Otherwise, I still think it is a good deal.

The car was a show car for UltraSmith of NY when they did the fancy stereos and electronic goodies in the 80's. They hacked up the electrical pretty good so I will be sorting that out next. It was probably quality work then, but now it is a mountain of relays under the drivers seat that need some attention. I probably have some corrosion issues that cause some pretty funny behavior.

That is why people want to buy a stock 930. The mods are cool but sometimes they are done poorly and 26 years later the bugs show up. This is the first of 6 Porsche's that I have bought over the years that had mods. I think that I got a good enough deal that I will be ahead over what it would cost me to make a stock 930 look like this one once I get everything sorted out. The most important thing now is to get some quality miles on it and work out the gripes. I do not believe that I have had to do any work that a stock 930 with that had sat would have needed though.

Of course, every 930 owner learns that the purchase price is just the beginning!

The 930 is one of the most raw, visceral feeling sports cars out there and truly brutal to tame on the track but they are old and clearly not the fastest car but I don't care, if you can tame one of these you can pretty much drive anything and regarding values, there is a supply/demand imbalance going right now and I know for a fact that a lot of good 930's are being brought back to the Motherland for a premium. . .

Unrepeatable today ( prices higher?), so if you see one like this ( $32K ) P.M me, I will be glad to be wrong.

2 1/2 years ago I picked up my '86 930 for $20k.... No way in hell I would sell her that cheap now even if I didn't do all the mods. I definately see a trend upward, you have to realize every year atleast one of these jewels gets totaled, stolen and stripped, packed away in a collection never to see pavement again or just rusting away in somebodies back yard. And since Porsche hasn't made a 930 since '89 the pool in which to choose from is slowly shrinking. :)

I have been considering a 997TT, they are now down into the $60k range. By the time I make the jump I should be able to just trade even ;)