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quattrorunner 08-01-2012 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timspu (Post 6886827)
Quattrorunner,
Is your second gear pull leaner than either 3rd or 4th?
I only notice late 9's early 10's when using the LM-1 graph plot. The handheld unit obviously has a slower sampling rate so the graph will have to be smoothed by
about a second to read similar to the hand held readout.

Not sure I understand the question. Plus I have close ratio 5 speed. I see a spike of rich condition for a slpit second and then consistant 10.5/1-11.5/1 AFR. I adjusted my mix last night and am seeing better AFR's now. Still not 12/1 but I'm liking my cruise and idle numbers now(idle13./1-13.5/1 cruise 15 AFR).

timspu 08-01-2012 01:13 PM

If i do a throttle wide open run from 3k to 6k revs in 2nd gear my AFR's are alot leaner that doing the same in 3rd gear, just wondering if you saw the same.
We now appear to be similar for idle and cruise.

timspu 08-01-2012 01:15 PM

Thanks, that is great info.
Cheers

TIM

quattrorunner 08-01-2012 01:17 PM

What are your numbers in second under full boost? And third?

heliolps2 08-01-2012 06:26 PM

Hello guys,
I believe that if you raise the system pressure . The on boost AFR's will raise and the cruise AFR's will raise also. 15.5 is exceptable on cruise for good gas mileage , that' done by adding shims , will need CIS fuel pressure test gauge

timspu 08-02-2012 01:19 AM

Quattrorunner,

11.6 AFR in second gear and 10.7 AFR in 3rd gear under full boost.
All pulls from 3k rpm.

heliolps2 08-02-2012 08:22 AM

you say 10.7 in 3rd gaer under full boost , it shouls lean out the longer you stay on boost , try staying on boost longer and see what it does

quattrorunner 08-02-2012 09:26 AM

Thats odd, I wouldn't be able to understand why that is, but both numbers are safe. Mine would be opposite if anything.

timspu 08-04-2012 12:16 AM

AFR's are taken at. High RPm so boost would be stabilised. Not sure why my AFR is different between gear selection. More playing required.

quattrorunner 08-04-2012 08:46 AM

One thought, can I submit that maybe these numbers are taken in sequence? And that if you were to take the readings with time between, like a small rest between the two gears, they might be the same or similar readings?
My thinking is that maybe your pumps or a pump might be getting tired. This is just a thought and I'm not an expert but you could test two gears with a minute between readings and see?

flat_6 08-07-2012 09:53 AM

Guys, what AFR are you going for on boost? I thought the target was 12.5 for on boost and 14.7 without.

quattrorunner 08-07-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by flat_6 (Post 6898378)
Guys, what AFR are you going for on boost? I thought the target was 12.5 for on boost and 14.7 without.

Yeah, 12.5 or lower. I run 10.5-11.5 on boost. I may try and raise that to 12.5 or so.

timspu 08-07-2012 10:27 AM

I was thinking high 11's, i believe the worry is individual cylinders going lean, so if you are running 12.5 there is a chance one cylinder could be very lean. I have new injectors fitted and will be keeping it below 12 for a good safety margin, with 15 AFR for cruise.
Just got a boost gauge so i can tweak the boost a bit , the RPM gauge one goes off scale. Boost was set up on a dyno at 0.9 bar so will be interesting to see if anything has changed. (manual boost controller fitted)

flat_6 08-07-2012 01:05 PM

Is your boost controller electronic? be carefull if its truely manual, D.O.D (Dial of Death).

zcoker 08-07-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flat_6 (Post 6898692)
Is your boost controller electronic? be carefull if its truely manual, D.O.D (Dial of Death).


yeah, be careful. You can also call it "Vanishing Point"

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1344380039.jpg

timspu 08-08-2012 04:48 AM

yes it is manual and located in the engine bay. The over boost switch is still connected and appears to cut in early. I fitted a free flowing muffler and the engine started to cut out, fit standard pipe and all good, so as yet no worries with an over boost situation.


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