Are they getting those prices on eBay?

[S1000RR]

Every few months I look at the 930 prices on eBay. This morning I noted a number of six figure cars. Are they really selling for that kind of money now?

I also saw an ad from an exotics dealer in California from whom I bought my 86 930, which has been a joy to own I might add. He is advertising a ZZZ 85 for more than twice what I paid him for my car four years ago. My car is a keeper so its value is of little interest to me, but does $85k sound plausible for the 76k mile 85 he is selling now?

Steve
86 930
96 S600

[Mike80911]

Search the completed listings and you will see those cars listed over and over again. The values have definitely increased but not by what the dealers are asking.

[93097004xx]

Nice original cars can bring that money or higher.

[RarlyL8]

I've been watching eBay very close. Few cars actually sell, some are listed so high they get zero bids. I'm sure they have a different spin over in the valuation forum.

[dennywags]

An '89 speedster that didn't sell for $279 was just relisted for $249.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by RarlyL8

I've been watching eBay very close. Few cars actually sell, some are listed so high they get zero bids. I'm sure they have a different spin over in the valuation forum.

I beg to differ. In the Marketplace Forum most of us realize that EBay is where the dealers push the limits and the turds get passed off as nicer than they are. I think EBay is a poor representation of the actual market. It's where the heady froth on the current run up in prices bubbles off and anyone paying attention over time can see these cars cycle through over and over not selling or being reduced in price until they do sell. Most of the premium cars are not going to be found on EBay.

To answer the original question, yes, 930s are selling for that kind of money. But they aren't EBay cars that are bringing those prices. They are generally nicer cars than what you see there.

[wildturkey]

If you where in no hurry to sell your car, why not put a hugh price on it.

A fool and his money soon part and ebay is one of the best fishing spots for fools.

[krasuskyp]

the question needs to be restated

do SOME cars (low mileage original stockers, typically early cars) sell for that kind of $$$?

yes - a very select few

Do our regular cars here??? (and no, I'm not including the aforementioned ^ebay turds^)

NO

take a gander @ the classifieds right here - a simple paruse today reveals no less than 3-4 of "our" known cars from this very forum... really good / great examples, to boot.

They're languishing and seeing price reductions (no offense, at all - odd to me why they've not sold personally).

And those price reductions?

FAR BELOW "Haggerty's" claims ferfukkinCERTAIN.

So, don't believe the hype... or rather... know the difference.

While "our cars" are super nice and have risen exponentially - they are NOT even remotely worth Haggerty's "we want to sell you more insurance" claimed values.

The Market has spoken - have a look fer yerself.

I'd venture to say where as Haggerty claims our normal '78-'88s (removing the outliers of early cars / G50s) are somewhere in the $85-130k+++ range... they are realistically $55k-110k cars.

Not shabby, but a pretty far disparity from they hype certainly. Don't agree? List your car FS for a Haggerty price and watch it SIT. Yeah.

Crykie tho - WHY is this post not in the Marketplace forum? Crykier... *I* just participated in it. Dammit / d'oh! 8-/

[RarlyL8]

The original question asked if 930's on eBay are selling for six figures. The answer is NO.
Only collector grade 930's sell for six figures, eBay is wishful thinking for the market manipulators.

[ficke]

Hagerty's values seem about as good as anyone's guess and fairly accurate in this crazy market. What's inaccurate is owner's assement of their cars condtion. Good cars sell for good money, driver level cars do not sell for good car money and languish on eBay and here until the owners realize this and price them accordingly.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by ficke

Hagerty's values seem about as good as anyone's guess and fairly accurate in this crazy market. What's inaccurate is owner's assement of their cars condtion. Good cars sell for good money, driver level cars do not sell for good car money and languish on eBay and here until the owners realize this and price them accordingly.

I agree with this. I think many people believe they've got a condition 2 car that is really a 3. Nothing at all wrong with a 3 and a 3 is a very nice driver condition car. Until I got properly educated I thought my '86 was 2. It's not. It's a really nice 3.

[krasuskyp]

^my point exactly^

look up 3 #'s... the cars listed FS (again not ebay turdz) are strong 3's and still languish @ notably less than a Haggerty 3

big disparity betwixt what they say and what money is currently saying... and, money talks.

[93097004xx]

This all very simple. Most cars on ebay are condition 3 or 4 .
These are general selling prices I have documented over the past 2 years.
These selling prices pertain to nice original 930s excellent paint and no issues.

All original stock 930 76/79 75k to 150k
All original stock 930 80/85 65k to 85k
All original stock 930 86/88 55k to 120k
1989 930s have premium but it's really tough to say how much now. Safe to say a nice one is well over 100k.


Collector 930s any year 100k to 300k, these are Hagerty condition 1.

People get confused on condition 1, 2 ,3.

[RarlyL8]

What's inaccurate is owner's assement of their cars condtion. Good cars sell for good money, driver level cars do not sell for good car money and languish on eBay and here until the owners realize this and price them accordingly.

Ficke, you nailed it.

Finding a good car at a truly reasonable realistic price has been made very difficult by the market manipulators. I've been looking for a driver 911 to use for R&D and am beyond frustrated that everyone wants a mint for junk. Do these idiots realize how much money it costs to fix junk? $30K+ asking prices for non matching number wrong drive train modified bodied 911's is ridiculous. I want to kick them in the nuts.

[Norm K]

Originally Posted by RarlyL8

Ficke, you nailed it.

Finding a good car at a truly reasonable realistic price has been made very difficult by the market manipulators. I've been looking for a driver 911 to use for R&D and am beyond frustrated that everyone wants a mint for junk. Do these idiots realize how much money it costs to fix junk? $30K+ asking prices for non matching number wrong drive train modified bodied 911's is ridiculous. I want to kick them in the nuts.

Here you go, Brian. You're looking for a widebody, right? This just popped up on the Denver Craigslist today, although the guy says he's in Idaho.

Porsche 911

[krasuskyp]

Originally Posted by 93097004xx

These are general selling prices I have documented over the past 2 years.

Say... there once was another guy here who had been posting accumulating all the Notable Recent Sales but he took his ball and went home when that thread got moved to it's proper location on the Marketplace forum.
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...oh, wait...

...hi Tony!

[jwasbury]

Yes. Good to see that we're no longer holding back and pretending to be someone else.

I'll add something that probably should go in the Notable Recent Sale Thread. Friend just sold his '86 for 100k. Guards Red, beige/brown interior, 29k miles. Stock except for 18" wheels and big brakes. Fuchs long gone and won't fit over brakes anyway. Definitely a nice car, probably a solid #2.

I'll be putting old Blue up on eBay soon for wider exposure. I've been in the Pelican classifieds for a couple weeks now. Some interesting and strange trade offers (Ferrari, and Rolls Royce), a fair number of inquiries or PMs telling me not to sell, but no Pelicans who are ready to buy and have cash evidently.

[pu911]

Right now to me - the 76 77 market looks strong the 79 market not as strong. Ebay is one small part of the market- great place to market a car not always the best place to sell one. I've sold a fair amount of cars over the years, the bulletin boards are a tough place to do business - not many retail buyers- everyone wants a deal.
Phil

[ficke]

Originally Posted by jwasbury

I'll add something that probably should go in the Notable Recent Sale Thread. Friend just sold his '86 for 100k. Guards Red, beige/brown interior, 29k miles. Stock except for 18" wheels and big brakes. Fuchs long gone and won't fit over brakes anyway. Definitely a nice car, probably a solid #2.

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Your friend's car by Hagerty's definition and your description is a number 3 car at best, any modifications and it can not be a 1 or 2.
Your friend's car has had pretty significant modification since the brakes have been changed, so now I would question if the steering wheel is original? or stereo? intercooler? the 100k sounds pretty spot on for a very nice condtion, modified car using the Hagerty valuation as a guide.

[93097004xx]

Originally Posted by pu911

Right now to me - the 76 77 market looks strong the 79 market not as strong. Ebay is one small part of the market- great place to market a car not always the best place to sell one. I've sold a fair amount of cars over the years, the bulletin boards are a tough place to do business - not many retail buyers- everyone wants a deal.
Phil

It's hard to say, 76/77 930s are worth more than 78/79 930s. Especially on ebay. But 78/79 930s sell for as much or MORE at auction. I believe the highest price ever paid for a 930 was a 1979 930. There will be a 1979 930 coming up for sale at Monterey that could break $300,000. I really really really want the Steve McQueen 930 to sell for $500,000 +. It could even be my early birthday present. Lol