79 930 - what radio?

[the_webbster]

OK, this is probably a no brainer, but which radio did the 79 930 come with originally? was there a difference between the euro spec and the US? I'm looking to backdate my 930 to original.
thanks,



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[voitureltd]

They came with different radio's. The Kardex may list it when you purchase a Certificate of authenticity. The certificates that I have orderded, do list which radio it was ordered with. If no radio is listed and it has one now it may have not been orderded with a radio.

[Miguel Antonett]

I have the original radio that came with my 78, it is a Blaupunk composed of two elements; the radio itself and an amplifier type looking thing. It even has a casette player that says PORSCHE on the lid. Lots of stickers on the back on warranty, Ferdinand approved... obviously all in German.

[bkreigsr]

the three component Bamberg (with 'record' function-see attached mike on retractile coil) was correct for the 76 & 77 930, maybe 75 -78, not sure about the 79.
I have also seen 76's with the "ET" controls on a flexible stalk controls as OEM, sorry don't know the model.
Bill K

[bkreigsr]

webster, here's the "ET" on a flex stalk I mentioned.
Like I said, I've seen it on a division winning 76 930.
Bill K

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/534456-blaupunkt-berlin-stalk-radio-fs-70s-era.html

[Speedy Squirrel]

That is FUNK-tastic! I want one. Nice and overly complex, just like the car.

Originally Posted by bkreigsr

webster, here's the "ET" on a flex stalk I mentioned.
Like I said, I've seen it on a division winning 76 930.
Bill K

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/534456-blaupunkt-berlin-stalk-radio-fs-70s-era.html

[Hayabusa]

Bamburg mounted

[1979-930]

I have been searching and decided to bump this thread because of the photos. A couple of other threads on this subject, 1979 930 Radio, state the Bamberg with the recorder was standard. My center console does not have any of the provisions for the mic or any evidence of a bracket ever being installed like the photos above. All that is there is the AC controls and a big pocket.

I have been searching aution photos and have found a few photos of other non-restored 79 930s with the CR radio. This is a pic from a 79 930 with 34k on it that is a couple hundred units after mine.



So unless someone knows otherwise I am going to assume the 79 model came with the Bamberg with recorder as an up-grade and the CR was the base unit.

On a side note it's funny how the cars with aftermarket radios always have a perfect shot of the dash and radio. But the high dollar unrestored cars have photos from 20' away with the door open. ****** salesmen....

[lee88]

Originally Posted by bkreigsr

the three component Bamberg (with 'record' function-see attached mike on retractile coil) was correct for the 76 & 77 930, maybe 75 -78, not sure about the 79.
I have also seen 76's with the "ET" controls on a flexible stalk controls as OEM, sorry don't know the model.
Bill K

Originally Posted by Hayabusa

Bamburg mounted

For those cars with the Bamberg, I think there were slight differences between the recording mics in the '75-79 time frame. There are others with more expertise on this than me, but my understanding is the '75-76 cars had the mic mounted on the side of the band selector box (as depicted in Bill K's post - 1st pic quoted here). The mic was a curly coil as depicted in Bill K's pic. I believe these cars did not yet have the floor center console with A/C controls and cassette tape storage.

Starting in '77 the mic was integrated into the center console w/ A/C controls and was on a retracting real that fit inside the console. This is depicted in the pics Hayabusa posted (2nd & 3rd pic quoted here).

Other small notes... I believe the top radio in Bill K's post is a German/ROW type unit. The different radio bands have a German word so the letters are L, M, K, and U. The lower radio in Hayabusa's post is a US market radio with bands labeled as we'd more commonly expect (AM, FM, LW - longwave mostly obsolete in 21st century, SW - shortwave).

Lastly there's different faceplates for these Blaupunkt Bamberg radios, which were also available OEM on Mercedes and other cars. I believe the faceplate in Hayabusa's pic is correct for Porsche, I'm uncertain about the top pic (it may be, uncertain).

It's tricky and expensive these days to find the Bamberg's with all the components and in good working order. You can try eBay or there's also CHROMELONDON in UK which sells and restores old Becker and Blaupunkt car stereos and sometimes will have them available.

[lee88]

For amusement in the "whacky stalk Blaupunkt" category, this is the Blaupunkt unit fitted in the mid-late '80s in my '74 MFI Carrera.

[1979-930]

I am trying to determine if the CR was a 930 option in 79. My car is a 1979 and if it had the Bamberg with recorder option I would think my center console would look like the one in your post. My center console has only a short panel at the top for the AC controls where the Mic is in the photo. So I think my car had the Bamberg CR version without the recorder.
Chromelondon seems to have the euro versions which would be ok. I would like to find a US version.

[confused]

I have not seen a 1979 car with a Bamberg yet, just seen them with CRs. I have not seen any 78-79 cars with a microphone on a recoil in the console but I have noticed them on a few 77s. If you have a console with the funny looking hole then you would have had the Bamburg, I am guessing the mic and recording was a fad that died out rather quickly so by 79 it was no more. I have a 79 and have been looking at what should go in them - seems like a CR is right.

On a side note, I now have for sale through my madness of searching and buying:

Blaupunkt Bamberg USA complete rebuilt unit with recoil mic or curly coil mic

Blaupunkt CR Euro - bench tested and working

[jay72]

The 1979 930 only came new with a Blaupunkt cr stereo. There were some differences between the U.S. radio and Euro radios but both were Blaupunkt cr.

[1979-930]

Originally Posted by confused

Blaupunkt CR Euro - bench tested and working

Probably a dumb question, But does the Euro work in the US? Are the U frequencies the same as FM?

[rlane930]

Originally Posted by 1979-930

Probably a dumb question, But does the Euro work in the US? Are the U frequencies the same as FM?

Blaupunkt CR Euro had FM to 104 MHz vs. 108 MHz for U.S. versions. Otherwise, they function the same.

[porche]

Originally Posted by jay72

The 1979 930 only came new with a Blaupunkt cr stereo. There were some differences between the U.S. radio and Euro radios but both were Blaupunkt cr.

For North American (US) 1979 CR's, the dials changed mid production for the model year. Early versions have flat faced dials (like the '78's). Later ones had raised inner circle faced dials.
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[1979-930]

Originally Posted by porche

For North American (US) 1979 CR's, the dials changed mid production for the model year. Early versions have flat faced dials (like the '78's). Later ones had raised inner circle faced dials.
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Was the switch made at the same time as the Speedo, Washer Nozzles and AC vent changes?

[porche]

Originally Posted by 1979-930

Was the switch made at the same time as the Speedo, Washer Nozzles and AC vent changes?

Somewhat. Although those changes (and a few more) ended up on on the NA 1979 MY 2nd Build 930's that were part of Porsche's 1980 production, they were individually phased in as Porsche replenished inventory stocks. Porsche's inventory and supply chain practices never improved until the 90's when they embraced JIT.
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[1979-930]

Thank you for the information everyone. Having the correct radio is not a priority but on my search list.
I'm installing a Pioneer unit for now so I can have hands free calling. I refuse to wear one of those things in my ear.

This is the simplest and cleanest looking unit I could find.

[voitureltd]

[QUOTE=confused;9078558]I have not seen a 1979 car with a Bamberg yet, just seen them with CRs. I have not seen any 78-79 cars with a microphone on a recoil in the console but I have noticed them on a few 77s.

Very original 77 with the recoil mike upper right in the console