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Max oil pressure aluminum crank plugs

Does anybody know what the maximum oil pressure is, that can be run with the factory crankshafts? I have a GT3 crankshaft I am going to install in a high boost/high rpm 930 engine and the crank has the factory aluminum plugs installed. On stock GT3's the max oil pressure is limited to about 5 bar, whereas on 935 and 962 race cars the max oil pressure was around 8 bar. Will the aluminum plugs hold at the race car pressure or will they blow out?

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I initially read your post and thought 8 bar was too high, but just referred to a copy of a 935 factory manual someone gave me years ago. Sure enough, it specifies 7.4-7.6 bar at 80 degrees Celsius oil temp. I wonder if anyone runs race motors at such high oil pressures these days.
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If you go to YouTube and search for Spezial Motorer 935 dyno, you can see the oil pressure on the dyno screen is a steady 7.5 bar (reasonably recent, I guess). I also have a dyno sheet from an Andial/Schuppan 962 that shows 7.8-8.0 bar oil pressure. Question is, did those crankshafts have aluminum plugs or did the RSR/935/962 cranks have threaded or welded plugs?
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If you go to YouTube and search for Spezial Motorer 935 dyno, you can see the oil pressure on the dyno screen is a steady 7.5 bar (reasonably recent, I guess). I also have a dyno sheet from an Andial/Schuppan 962 that shows 7.8-8.0 bar oil pressure. Question is, did those crankshafts have aluminum plugs or did the RSR/935/962 cranks have threaded or welded plugs?
Most engine builders installed threaded plugs to facilitate engine cleanout following rebuild or damage from a failed component.

Saved a lot of time and effort!!
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What would it be considered too high oil pressure for a standard 3.3?
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Most engine builders installed threaded plugs to facilitate engine cleanout following rebuild or damage from a failed component.

Saved a lot of time and effort!!
Do you need a special type of tap to cut into the hardened steel crank?

What size? I am guessing you use an NPT plug but would like to be educated.

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A friend with decent skills (paid for college by working as a machinist) once tapped his crank for this purpose. He said it was very difficult due to the toughness of the steel, and I think he broke a number of taps in the process (which is a problem all of its own).

I don't know if there are cobalt or other tougher taps the way there are drill bits.

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