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Henry Schmidt 09-20-2022 08:13 AM

New Supertec 3.9 for 87 Back date
 
My car had a 3.3 Turbo but now we're building a 3.9 (76.4 X 104mm) with Supertec prototype intake. The intake can be built to use EFI or MFI. The aluminum used to cast these manifolds was recycled old Mahle pistons.

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JoeMag 09-21-2022 04:24 AM

Motor spec’s? …starting to venture into big bores?

Henry Schmidt 09-21-2022 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeMag (Post 11802992)
Motor spec’s? …starting to venture into big bores?

It's a pretty mild street build
76.4mm 964 crank
IRP ? forged H beam rods
964 case converted for Carrera fan & housing
964 heads mild porting [clean up]
Custom made [in house] 104mm Biral cylinders (Nikasil coating)
JE 10.5:1 compression
Supertec head studs
993 Super Sport cams
Custom 3 to 2 intake conversion plates
46 mm butterflies reduced to 41mm ports
63mm air horns [velocity stacks]
ITG air filters
Plans are to run a Haltec management from Clewitt engineering.

Jeff Alton 09-23-2022 03:47 PM

Interested in your thoughts on the IRP rods. There website is not spectacular :) But interested in what you think about the weights, materials, quality etc as well as pricing/availability.

Cheers

Henry Schmidt 09-23-2022 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Alton (Post 11805478)
Interested in your thoughts on the IRP rods. There website is not spectacular :) But interested in what you think about the weights, materials, quality etc as well as pricing/availability.

Cheers

Without trying to be too negative, I wasn't very impressed. These may have been a very early attempt. I'm talking to them direct now and they think what I have may not have been their product. With that in mind I'm working with them on what I hope to be a better product.

Jeff Alton 09-24-2022 05:15 PM

Thank for the info Henry, keep us posted!

Cheers

winders 09-24-2022 05:56 PM

Why not Carrillo H beam rods?

Henry Schmidt 09-25-2022 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by winders (Post 11806291)
Why not Carrillo H beam rods?

Why not Stolichnaya instead of Broken Shed Vodka.
Carrillo is my go to rod but product development requires that I try different directions. I've used Carrillo rods since before they perfected their design. Carrillos would regularly break small ends literally sawing the motor in half.
You could easily ask the same question about every nuanced choice.
Why my own intake? Why use old pistons for casting material? Why a 964 crank instead of a GT3? Why back-date an 87 when I could just buy a long hood chassis? Why use early turbo brakes when Big Reds work so well? Why Bilstien instead of JRZ?
The possibilities are endless but when I try something new/innovative, I generally use my own cars as a test bed.

winders 09-25-2022 12:48 PM

It was a direct and honest question. I was wondering why you didn't use Carrillo H Beam rods....apparently the answer is you wanted to try another company's product.

But no, you had a be an ass....

Henry Schmidt 09-25-2022 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winders (Post 11806761)
It was a direct and honest question. I was wondering why you didn't use Carrillo H Beam rods....apparently the answer is you wanted to try another company's product.

But no, you had a be an ass....

Don't like Vodka ?....don't respond to my posts.

bickyd 09-25-2022 07:16 PM

reference
 
you guys should race. that would be cool.

winders 09-25-2022 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bickyd (Post 11807013)
you guys should race. that would be cool.

Hmmm....

He just bought a race shop....have him build a PCA GT3 car to race against mine! William Knight and I are upgrading the drivetrain this off season...I'll probably do some upgrading to the chassis as well.

We can race for a dollar!

winders 09-25-2022 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry Schmidt (Post 11806828)
Don't like Vodka ?....don't respond to my posts.

I am a single malt Scotch person....primarily from Islay.

Oh, and Bob Mueller (races in POC and PCA) makes a great Tequila that I love! His Gold Reposado is stellar!!

rosenbergendo 09-26-2022 01:54 PM

Winders, what updates do u and William have planned?
Doing some fun things to this!http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1664229244.jpg

winders 09-26-2022 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rosenbergendo (Post 11807677)
Winders, what updates do u and William have planned?
Doing some fun things to this!http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1664229244.jpg

Nice car! Silver is my favorite color for a street 911!

Oh, new pistons, new cams, new ITBs, new headers...stuff like that. Maybe some stuff with the gearbox.

Henry Schmidt 09-26-2022 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bickyd (Post 11807013)
you guys should race. that would be cool.

Why, racing is for the young at heart who have something to prove.
My professional racing career ended in my late 20s, after that it's just been teasing the club guys who take it way to serious.

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Originally Posted by winders (Post 11807026)
Hmmm....

He just bought a race shop....have him build a PCA GT3 car to race against mine! William Knight and I are upgrading the drivetrain this off season...I'll probably do some upgrading to the chassis as well.

We can race for a dollar!

What you are talking about is a prop bet.
Here are the terms:
First rule: Any traffic ticket disqualifies the participant.
I propose a race from the Palm Springs tram to the concierge desk at the Wynn.
We both buy $ 5k worth of chips. We play 100 hands of no-limit holdem, heads up.
If someone doesn't have all the chips after 100 hands, the winner gets 1 minute head start for every ten dollar he wins.
I'll drive my GT3 and you can drive yours. Winner is the first one back to the tram.

Quick question about the "single malt" you're so proud of: do you drink it on the rocks with milk? I hear that's pretty popular with the "poser" kids.

Henry Schmidt 09-26-2022 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosenbergendo (Post 11807677)
Winders, what updates do u and William have planned?
Doing some fun things to this!http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1664229244.jpg

If that's a real RS, be gentle. Those are truly rare and work just fine as is.
Beautiful car, BTW.

I built an RS replica 25 years ago that turned up at the track and a magazine article commented on how nice it was to see a real light-weight at the track. They thought it was real because of the early Carrera graphics. It looked just like this.

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winders 09-26-2022 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry Schmidt (Post 11807709)
Why, racing is for the young at heart who have something to prove.
My professional racing career ended in my late 20s, after that it's just been teasing the club guys who take it way to serious.


What you are talking about is a prop bet.
Here are the terms:
First rule: Any traffic ticket disqualifies the participant.
I propose a race from the Palm Springs tram to the concierge desk at the Wynn.
We both buy $ 5k worth of chips. We play 100 hands of no-limit holdem, heads up.
If someone doesn't have all the chips after 100 hands, the winner gets 1 minute head start for every ten dollar he wins.
I'll drive my GT3 and you can drive yours. Winner is the first one back to the tram.

Quick question about the "single malt" you're so proud of: do you drink it on the rocks with milk? I here that's pretty popular with the "poser" kids.

I was alive when Kennedy was President and vividly remember the first moon landing. I am hardly a "kid".

I drink my Scotch neat or with just a little bit of room temp water (preferably from the same water source used in the Scotch's distilling process).

Racing on the street is stupid. Gambling is almost as stupid. I don't do either. I don't consider betting $1 gambling...

Build an actual PCA GT3 race car. You don't have to be the one racing the car if you are too old and feeble. Just get a club racer (an actual amateur) to race the car you build. Let's pick an event at Laguna Seca....a PCA Club Race...to see whose race car is better.

You don't get to call me a poser unless you can prove that I am.

Oh, I am pretty sure you know you can't build an engine to compete with a William Knight engine. So this race will never take place.

Put up or shut up!

911 SLANT 09-26-2022 03:20 PM

Here we go again. Another pissing match. Why don't you both stand next to each other and see who can actually piss farthest. Let's just agree to disagree. You both are obviously talented and gifted. Let's just leave it at that. This bitterness between you two is beneath you both. Be glad to enjoy the life and knowledge you have. I wish I knew what both of you know about motors. I have learned so much from both of your post. Hope you work it out. God bless

winders 09-26-2022 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 911 SLANT (Post 11807751)
Here we go again. Another pissing match. Why don't you both stand next to each other and see who can actually piss farthest. Let's just agree to disagree. You both are obviously talented and gifted. Let's just leave it at that. This bitterness between you two is beneath you both. Be glad to enjoy the life and knowledge you have. I wish I knew what both of you know about motors. I have learned so much from both of your post. Hope you work it out. God bless

Thanks for the kind words!

I am just having some fun here with the curmudgeon. He knows a bunch more about engines than I do. He just got so uptight when I had the gall to suggest that 993 TT head studs are just fine to use, that using a single MSD in a dual plug setup is not the right way to go, and that modern high performance inductive ignition systems work great.

Until he can handle those facts, we will probably continue to butt heads.


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